Rossignol XP 12 XPLORE boot
- fledersau
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- Ski style: BC XC/D ex. Telemark 75mm, Snowboardcross and Alpine Skier
- Favorite Skis: Asnes Ingstad Waxless 195cm, Asnes Rabb 188cm, Madshus Panorama M62
- Favorite boots: Rossignol XP12 and BC X7
Rossignol XP 12 XPLORE boot
Hi there,
I'm a new member, but already got a lot of information at tipps from the forum here, so i'd like to contribute something.
I know Rossignol doesn't get much love around here but lack of choice had me buy the Rossignol XP 12.
There is no snow to try the boots yet, but because i found absolutely no infos on this boot, i thought some real non-marketing photos and impressions might be helpful for y'all.
While i didn't had the opportuniy to try other Rottefella XPlore boots, i have skiing experience in Rossignol X7 NNN BC and Rossignol X10 75mm and tried on Alpina Alaskas 75 and NNN BC as well as the Salomon Escape Outback.
Fit:
The boot itself is quite larger and higher volume than the Alpina Alaskas (NNN BC and 75), the feel really comfortable and i have the impression the heel will stay nicely at its place inside the boot. The double quick lacing helps to individually adjust tension on the upper and lower part of the foot.
Flex:
The sole flexes as described on the other XPlore Boot reviews, stiff and torsionnally rigid compared to NNN BC. But there is a flex point behind the BOF and another higher up the cuff. The flex point behind the BOF gives a small pressure point along the top of the boot, curious to see how this will break in.
The cuff seems a little softer than the non XPlore Alaskas but stiffer than something like the Rossignol BC X10 (a little), or the BC X7 Salomon Escape outback (by much)
Sole flex with standard flex
Sole flex with hard flex
Look
Usually look isn't that important to me, most boots are low key and don't hurt when you look at them. But this, my o my... This thing is ugly. Golden background with black dots, cmon... Who is into that?!? The only way it's acceptable if you ironically pretend that it's some kind of leopard pattern... But yeah, don't know what happened there...
I'll give some updates on the boot as soon we have some snow around here. Has anybody else had any experience with that boot or some impressions? Curious to hear your thoughts.
I'm a new member, but already got a lot of information at tipps from the forum here, so i'd like to contribute something.
I know Rossignol doesn't get much love around here but lack of choice had me buy the Rossignol XP 12.
There is no snow to try the boots yet, but because i found absolutely no infos on this boot, i thought some real non-marketing photos and impressions might be helpful for y'all.
While i didn't had the opportuniy to try other Rottefella XPlore boots, i have skiing experience in Rossignol X7 NNN BC and Rossignol X10 75mm and tried on Alpina Alaskas 75 and NNN BC as well as the Salomon Escape Outback.
Fit:
The boot itself is quite larger and higher volume than the Alpina Alaskas (NNN BC and 75), the feel really comfortable and i have the impression the heel will stay nicely at its place inside the boot. The double quick lacing helps to individually adjust tension on the upper and lower part of the foot.
Flex:
The sole flexes as described on the other XPlore Boot reviews, stiff and torsionnally rigid compared to NNN BC. But there is a flex point behind the BOF and another higher up the cuff. The flex point behind the BOF gives a small pressure point along the top of the boot, curious to see how this will break in.
The cuff seems a little softer than the non XPlore Alaskas but stiffer than something like the Rossignol BC X10 (a little), or the BC X7 Salomon Escape outback (by much)
Sole flex with standard flex
Sole flex with hard flex
Look
Usually look isn't that important to me, most boots are low key and don't hurt when you look at them. But this, my o my... This thing is ugly. Golden background with black dots, cmon... Who is into that?!? The only way it's acceptable if you ironically pretend that it's some kind of leopard pattern... But yeah, don't know what happened there...
I'll give some updates on the boot as soon we have some snow around here. Has anybody else had any experience with that boot or some impressions? Curious to hear your thoughts.
Last edited by fledersau on Thu Jan 05, 2023 8:20 pm, edited 1 time in total.
- Tom M
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Re: Rossignol XP 12
I'm very interested in your ski experience with this boot. REI had them for preorder a few weeks ago and I had a set on order for Julie, but yesterday they cancelled the preorder and sent me a message saying that they could not fulfil the order because of supply issues. Julie has always skied Rossignol boots because they are the best match for her. It looks like the new design is an improvement over her current off trail boots, the BCX-6. The BCX-6 has a hook lace system and the metal hooks wear through the built-in gator after a season or two. The XP 12 has eliminated the hooks and she likes the quick lace system on her track boots so I'm betting she will like these. Rossignol's site has a few available but none in her size. Where did you purchase your set?
- TeleMarcin
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Re: Rossignol XP 12
https://en.aventurenordique.com/skiboot ... xp-12.html
Aventure Nordique in France seems to have them in stock
Aventure Nordique in France seems to have them in stock
- fledersau
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- Favorite Skis: Asnes Ingstad Waxless 195cm, Asnes Rabb 188cm, Madshus Panorama M62
- Favorite boots: Rossignol XP12 and BC X7
Re: Rossignol XP 12
Hi Tom,Tom M wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 7:59 amI'm very interested in your ski experience with this boot. REI had them for preorder a few weeks ago and I had a set on order for Julie, but yesterday they cancelled the preorder and sent me a message saying that they could not fulfil the order because of supply issues. Julie has always skied Rossignol boots because they are the best match for her. It looks like the new design is an improvement over her current off trail boots, the BCX-6. The BCX-6 has a hook lace system and the metal hooks wear through the built-in gator after a season or two. The XP 12 has eliminated the hooks and she likes the quick lace system on her track boots so I'm betting she will like these. Rossignol's site has a few available but none in her size. Where did you purchase your set?
First thanks alot for all your content on the forum and YouTube, you helped me alot when i was getting into the sport..
I bought them at La Cordee (Québec REI without the Coop part), they have only size 42 on the website but they seem to have more sizes in some shops at the moment.
https://www.lacordee.com/en/rossignol-x ... wcB&page=1
- fledersau
- Posts: 39
- Joined: Fri Nov 11, 2022 4:25 pm
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- Ski style: BC XC/D ex. Telemark 75mm, Snowboardcross and Alpine Skier
- Favorite Skis: Asnes Ingstad Waxless 195cm, Asnes Rabb 188cm, Madshus Panorama M62
- Favorite boots: Rossignol XP12 and BC X7
Re: Rossignol XP 12
Follow up1:
I had my first outing on these boots and on the XPlore System general. Just a short stroll on the plaines d'abraham in Québec City.
What hit me first was the stiffness of the sole. It's really quite stiff compared to NNN BC. The feel is way more direct and a little more nervous, but so much control. i was ables to kick as usual but felt more elasticity when kicking.
On the fit side i like the double quick-lacing. I could tighten down the lower part of the foot while keeping the upper quite loose. This was necessary because the boot is quite hight volume. I have a large foot and averag hight, medium arch, but i felt there still is room on top. Maybe i have to go with thicker insoles.
When trying the hard flexers, i was surprised about the difference. Walking isn't fun with those, the stays low. But descending, wow! i'm looking forward to do some xcd with that kit.
I had my first outing on these boots and on the XPlore System general. Just a short stroll on the plaines d'abraham in Québec City.
What hit me first was the stiffness of the sole. It's really quite stiff compared to NNN BC. The feel is way more direct and a little more nervous, but so much control. i was ables to kick as usual but felt more elasticity when kicking.
On the fit side i like the double quick-lacing. I could tighten down the lower part of the foot while keeping the upper quite loose. This was necessary because the boot is quite hight volume. I have a large foot and averag hight, medium arch, but i felt there still is room on top. Maybe i have to go with thicker insoles.
When trying the hard flexers, i was surprised about the difference. Walking isn't fun with those, the stays low. But descending, wow! i'm looking forward to do some xcd with that kit.
- lilcliffy
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Re: Rossignol XP 12
Thank you for the real-world test and report on this boot and binding!
I must say that the increasing number of positive reports on the Xplore system are getting hard to ignore!
I must say that the increasing number of positive reports on the Xplore system are getting hard to ignore!
Cross-country AND down-hill skiing in the backcountry.
Unashamed to be a "cross-country type" and love skiing down-hill.
Unashamed to be a "cross-country type" and love skiing down-hill.
- boby13
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Re: Rossignol XP 12
Lilcliffy you know you NEED to try the xplore system!
I'm a convert now, I just don't know if I will replace my nnnbc on my e99 class skis.
I never tried the hard flexor but I don't think 75mm fans will like this system for telemark turns. It is still an hinged binding like the nnn ones.
But for me the xplore binding is better than nnnbc for deep snow travel on any terrain.
-more range of motion (really useful on hilly terrain)
-I have zero foot fatigue after long outings compared to nnn bc (probably because of the sole)
-no snow/ice buildup
-completely silent binding
- fisheater
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Re: Rossignol XP 12
@boby13 Thank you for your perspective. If I am hearing you correctly Xplore would be awesome on an XC ski that turns such as Nansen, Ingstad, even for some guys on FT X. However it will not deliver the power of 75 mm, especially once a cable is deployed.boby13 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 03, 2022 10:20 pmLilcliffy you know you NEED to try the xplore system!
I'm a convert now, I just don't know if I will replace my nnnbc on my e99 class skis.
I never tried the hard flexor but I don't think 75mm fans will like this system for telemark turns. It is still an hinged binding like the nnn ones.
But for me the xplore binding is better than nnnbc for deep snow travel on any terrain.
-more range of motion (really useful on hilly terrain)
-I have zero foot fatigue after long outings compared to nnn bc (probably because of the sole)
-no snow/ice buildup
-completely silent binding
That is really pretty awesome, especially since it seamless transitioning between striding and downhill turns. For me it wouldn’t replace 75 mm, but hopefully years from now when I wear out my Alaska BC, Xplore pricing will encourage me to switch over from NNN-BC.
- boby13
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Re: Rossignol XP 12
Yes exactly, but I haven't tried the hard flexor yet. Maybe I'll have a different opinion after that...
And I would also rephrase: It will not deliver the restriction of 75mm on your heel once the cable is deployed.
The xplore binding feels more powerful to me. Then you also need the right boot.
With the standard flex, its similar to nnnbc in the way its easy to get tippy toed when you're making telemark turns. I believe 75mm is easier to pressure the ball of foot and keep the pressure for the whole turn.
But going down steep icy and crusty slopes (no telemark turn), I taking the xplore/alfa free combo! I know its hard to believe but an alfa free fully tighten feels like you're stuck in a cast. The cuff forward flex is way stiffer than on my Garmont Excursion.
- lilcliffy
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Re: Rossignol XP 12
Yes, well- this says a lot!
What is your favorite boot right now- the Alaska XP?
And what do you think about the Alaska XP vs Alfa Free?
Cross-country AND down-hill skiing in the backcountry.
Unashamed to be a "cross-country type" and love skiing down-hill.
Unashamed to be a "cross-country type" and love skiing down-hill.