Alpina Wyoming Boots - Any Experience

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Alpina Wyoming Boots - Any Experience

Post by DevinBartley » Fri Oct 08, 2021 11:08 am

Hi Everyone,

I've been using normal classic waxed XC skiis at groomed nordic centres and also off trail (not much fun) for about 11 years and am just learning about the whole existance of the "light touring" ski, or what i have learned is often called the nordic backcountry ski.

So I just ordered Rossignol BC 80's with Rotefella Magnum bindings and Alpina Wyoming Boots. To be honest most of these choices were simply because they were the only items I could find in Canada that were in my size and in stock. I see much documentation about the Alaska boot, but almost nothing on the Wyoming. I cant tell if it is a new model or discontinued model, either.

I am wondering if anyone has experience with the Alpina Wyomings and can point me to how they might differ from the Alaskas or other popular boots. The reason I ask is I want to know once I get used to the skiis and boots where the Wyoming sits in terms of flexibility so I can understand if I would prefer a stiffer or softer boot, depending on the condition and the boots ability to turn the skiis. My assumption is that the Wyoming is somewhere in the middle of the stiffness scale, but perhaps it is lower down than the Alaska and Montana boot? Wyoming is further south of these states so perhaps their scale descends according to the geographic locations of the states? Alpina's website doesn't really provide good information on this type of thing, its like they want to be vague about what the boot actually is so you dont overthink buying it.

I plan on using the setup for golf courses, and mild off trail stuff, as well as skiing snowmobile packed trails here in the rocky mountains in Alberta. But as I get better at using the skiis I will probably trasition to more difficult terrain with steeper hills. I probably will be doing some overnight trips with a relatively light backpack on fairly manageable terrain. I'm also hoping it is warm enough for the weather here, but I also dont often suffer from cold feet so thats not a major concern.

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Re: Alpina Wyoming Boots - Any Experience

Post by Woodserson » Fri Oct 08, 2021 10:20 pm

I'm going to be unfortunately brief as I am in haste, but to get you going:

Compared to the Alaska:
The Wyoming does not have the Alpitex waterproof/"breathable" membrane.
It has a lower cuff and is less supportive.
It has a softer flex in the sole.
Fit is very similar to Alaska.

It's a straightforward softer boot for less than arduous terrain. A light BC boot for side country excursions. If it gets you out and skiing, it's a good one, right?

Keep an eye out for the Rossignol BCX10. It's a very decent boot that's a step in between the Wyoming and Alaska.

Avoid the Montana.


Oh and welcome to the forum and please share with us your skiing this winter!



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Re: Alpina Wyoming Boots - Any Experience

Post by John Dee » Sat Oct 09, 2021 6:26 am

Reviews of it showed a lot of unhappy customers with wet feet. So it probably needs a good leather treatment procedure.



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Re: Alpina Wyoming Boots - Any Experience

Post by DevinBartley » Mon Oct 11, 2021 3:48 pm

Woodserson wrote:
Fri Oct 08, 2021 10:20 pm
I'm going to be unfortunately brief as I am in haste, but to get you going:

Compared to the Alaska:
The Wyoming does not have the Alpitex waterproof/"breathable" membrane.
It has a lower cuff and is less supportive.
It has a softer flex in the sole.
Fit is very similar to Alaska.

It's a straightforward softer boot for less than arduous terrain. A light BC boot for side country excursions. If it gets you out and skiing, it's a good one, right?

Keep an eye out for the Rossignol BCX10. It's a very decent boot that's a step in between the Wyoming and Alaska.

Avoid the Montana.


Oh and welcome to the forum and please share with us your skiing this winter!
Thanks for this info, it sounds like it will work fine as a starting point. And good to know its relatively soft on the flex so that if I have a problem with controlling my skiis due to flex I know that I can always get a stiffer boot.



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Re: Alpina Wyoming Boots - Any Experience

Post by DevinBartley » Mon Oct 11, 2021 3:52 pm

John Dee wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 6:26 am
Reviews of it showed a lot of unhappy customers with wet feet. So it probably needs a good leather treatment procedure.
Just curious where you may have found these reviews? I spent a while searching and only found a few short reviews that didnt give a lot of info.

And good tip about the leather treatment. I have some Nikwax conditioner for leather that I use on leather hiking boots. I wonder if I should use that or their "Fabric and Leatherproof" product, or something else. But im sure this has been discussed already on this forum so I will search.



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Re: Alpina Wyoming Boots - Any Experience

Post by John Dee » Mon Oct 11, 2021 7:52 pm

I don't remember. But combining my unreliable memory with post 2 where it says that it has no waterproof membrane should be enough to assume its just a piece of suede footwear. Suede is probably inferior to regular leather for waterproofing.



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Re: Alpina Wyoming Boots - Any Experience

Post by DevinBartley » Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:50 pm

I'm no leather expert so I honestly cant determine if it is suede or full grain. Some descriptions say full grain, however the red leather appears to be a bit rough so I assume it is suede.

I ended up getting the Nikwax "Waterproofing wax for leather" cream in a tube. I also have the liquid "conditioner for leather", however the "conditioner for leather" seems to be focused on softening leather which I dont really want.

Only problem now is the "waterproofing wax for leather" specifies its for smooth leather, which I dont fully beleive this boot is.

I will try the boots out without and then with the Nikwax cream this winter and report on my experiences.



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Re: Alpina Wyoming Boots - Any Experience

Post by faizanmazhar00 » Fri Mar 04, 2022 4:31 am

DevinBartley wrote:
Fri Oct 08, 2021 11:08 am
Hi Everyone,

I've been using normal classic waxed XC skiis at groomed nordic centres and also off trail (not much fun) for about 11 years and am just learning about the whole existance of the "light touring" ski, or what i have learned is often called the nordic backcountry ski.

So I just ordered Rossignol BC 80's with Rotefella Magnum bindings and Alpina Wyoming Boots. To be honest most of these choices were simply because they were the only items I could find in Canada that were in my size and in stock. I see much documentation about the Alaska boot, but almost nothing on the Wyoming. I cant tell if it is a new model or discontinued model, either.

I am wondering if anyone has experience with the Alpina Wyomings and can point me to how they might differ from the Alaskas or other popular boots. The reason I ask is I want to know once I get used to the skiis and boots where the Wyoming sits in terms of flexibility so I can understand if I would prefer a stiffer or softer boot, depending on the condition and the boots ability to turn the skiis. My assumption is that the Wyoming is somewhere in the middle of the stiffness scale, but perhaps it is lower down than the Alaska and Montana boot? Wyoming is further south of these states so perhaps their scale descends according to the geographic locations of the states? Alpina's website doesn't really provide good information on this type of thing, its like they want to be vague about what the boot actually is so you dont overthink buying it.

I plan on using the setup for golf courses, and mild off trail stuff, as well as skiing snowmobile packed trails here in the rocky mountains in Alberta. But as I get better at using the skiis I will probably trasition to more difficult terrain with steeper hills. I probably will be doing some overnight trips with a relatively light backpack on fairly manageable terrain. I'm also hoping it is warm enough for the weather here, but I also dont often suffer from cold feet so thats not a major concern.
I'm no leather expert so I honestly cant determine if it is suede or full grain. Some descriptions say full grain, however the red leather appears to be a bit rough so I assume it is suede.



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