Fischer E-109 vs. Asnes Ingstad

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Re: Fischer E-109 vs. Asnes Ingstad

Post by bgregoire » Thu Dec 10, 2015 8:34 pm

MikeK wrote: The Amundsen throws me off. If a larger red circle means better float, then why does that ski have a large circle? Maybe it's relative to that group? It really doesn't have much different dimensions than an E99.
Good point. My personal translator is not up do it tonight, but I will try to figure it out in due time.
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Re: Fischer E-109 vs. Asnes Ingstad

Post by MikeK » Thu Dec 10, 2015 8:49 pm

Whatever it is the E89 has the least and the Ingstad, Storetind and the Amundsen have the most.

I'm really trying to think what those three skis have in common.



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Re: Fischer E-109 vs. Asnes Ingstad

Post by bgregoire » Thu Dec 10, 2015 9:11 pm

MikeK, I got confirmation here, the red circles are FLOTATION, and the size is relative to each and every other ski in the graph. The only nuance is that he could be talking about floating over loose snow & crust over loose snow.

He keeps Ingstad for the end and praises it for deep snow travel. It turns well he says, just a tad less than Nansen.
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Re: Fischer E-109 vs. Asnes Ingstad

Post by Cannatonic » Thu Dec 10, 2015 10:00 pm

whew, glad to see the Gamme54 is rated as turning easier than E99, I should be OK. I checked again, the stiffness and camber is pretty close.

Flotation is going to vary with the length of the skis. I think either Nansen or Ingstad would be a great ski. Both of them have around 20mm sidecut, they should turn well for a touring ski. For deep powder the fatter waist of Ingstad would be good. it's worth the extra money for Asnes if they're going to last twice as long. mmmmm, would love to try some Nansen 205's, will have to save some money up over the winter.

Skurka is skiing 200cm Nansen, he looks at most 150 pounds. I wouldn't be afraid to go long if you're bigger. I like the comment section - other people have realized that these 3-pin "XCD" setups are ridiculously cheap compared to modern alpine & AT skis.
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Re: Fischer E-109 vs. Asnes Ingstad

Post by MikeK » Fri Dec 11, 2015 8:40 am

I got thinking if I was going to have someone's face on my ski, it would be Cecilie's:

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Re: Fischer E-109 vs. Asnes Ingstad

Post by Cannatonic » Fri Dec 11, 2015 1:07 pm

looks like the Nansen in shorter lengths - if you can use 190cm…go for it! Jennifer Aniston with bigger hair!
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Ski style: Nordic backcountry touring with lots of turns
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Re: Fischer E-109 vs. Asnes Ingstad

Post by bgregoire » Fri Dec 11, 2015 1:23 pm

Cannatonic wrote:looks like the Nansen in shorter lengths - if you can use 190cm…go for it!
Cecilie's skis are simply Nansens with a softer camber and different graphics. Interesting for those of lesser weight, regardless of sex!
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Re: Fischer E-109 vs. Asnes Ingstad

Post by MikeK » Fri Dec 11, 2015 2:54 pm

Cannatonic wrote:looks like the Nansen in shorter lengths - if you can use 190cm…go for it! Jennifer Aniston with bigger hair!
Hahaha! My thought exactly about Jennifer Aniston! I like Cecilie's hair better though.

I'm too fat for those skis, I just think Cecilie is far nicer to look at than her husband Gamme or the grey man.



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Re: Fischer E-109 vs. Asnes Ingstad

Post by lilcliffy » Fri Dec 11, 2015 8:54 pm

bgregoire wrote:Ok found it!

You guys will love this!

Cannondale, this is Gamme's Papa!

All you have to do now is learn Norwegian! ;)

http://www.fftv.no/fjellskiskolen-ep-3-valg-av-ski
Well I certainly I wish I could speak Norwegian!

Obviously loads of valuable tech info- if I could receive it...

Those power telemarks on Gamme 54s and Fischer BCX6 (NNNBC!!!) are breathtaking!

Can't seem to get the rest of the video to load tonight (my internet speed isn't the best)

Will try and watch the rest of it tomorrow.
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Re: Fischer E-109 vs. Asnes Ingstad

Post by lilcliffy » Fri Dec 11, 2015 9:13 pm

MikeK wrote:I really wish I'd been to NB. I really have no idea what the terrain is like, but here we have very little natural 'tundra'.

I get the impression it's like the Northwestern Adirondacks i.e. low rugged mountains, mixed Boreal forest. The only real openings you have are beaver meadows, oxbow river beds, lakes and ponds. Pretty much everything else is forested, and especially on public land because it's been allowed to revert back to wild.

It's quite possible why a ski like the Eon is somewhat preferable to a E99/Glittertind here. Very rarely do you have deep powder but also just as rare is snow like they would have in Scandinavia.
The climate (snow conditions), terrain and cover are highly variable in NB.

The highest elevations (600+m) are in the northwest- are rugged, and covered with dense boreal forest cover (same conditions as the montane forests of the Gaspe (below treeline)).

The mid-elevations are mixed forest, with open hardwood forests on the upland ridges (this is my backyard skiing).

The low elevations are completely mixed bag- depending on settlement and agricultural history.

Trails and forest-woods roads transect the entire landscape.

Climate and snow conditions range widely from the mild, humid winters of coastal NB (similar to NS), to the cold, humid winters of central and western NB.

In general, elevation gradually increases from southeast to northwest (towards the Appalachian mtns in QC)- which is also moving away from the coastal weather. The snow conditions improve in the same direction.
Cross-country AND down-hill skiing in the backcountry.
Unashamed to be a "cross-country type" and love skiing down-hill.



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