Which first Asnes ski to buy ?

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Re: Which first Asnes ski to buy ?

Post by Dxmetal » Thu Dec 30, 2021 11:18 am

fisheater wrote:
Thu Dec 30, 2021 9:35 am
Dxmetal wrote:
Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:56 pm
fisheater wrote:
Wed Dec 29, 2021 8:46 pm
I don’t know what you weigh, I’m 5’9” and 190 lbs. I’m have a196 cm FT Xplore and wouldn’t consider shorter for my use, and the whole idea is to make turns downhill. However I still need to k&g to get there.
The only reason to send both those skis back is that they are so short. You’re going to need one sooner or later. That’s need, not want. Sorry skis are like Lay’s Potato Chips, nobody can have just one!
Sorry Dx, I will be up front. First, I’m older from twenty until my mid thirties I skied 205 cm downhill. Back then if you didn’t ski at least 200 cm you probably couldn’t ski well. Well, then mid-fats came out and I dropped to 189 cm. I’ll add up until my early forties, I poured concrete and rode a mountain bike all week. I only weighed 165, but I was nothing but muscle, skin, and bone back then. So 165 lbs is enough to bend a full size ski if you are an aggressive skier.
Now when we talk about skis that need to kick and glide to go downhill, there is no substitute for length when it comes to glide. Personally in my opinion, and you know what they say about opinions, I wouldn’t want less than a 188 in a Falketind. If you have a specialty use such as tight tree skiing or tight mountain trails then go short. I definitely don’t like short for a Telemark mounted ski. I like some edge and ski in front of me, it’s too easy to stick a tip aggressively going downhill, and no locked heel to prevent going over the bars.
So ignore me if you prefer, I do have strong opinions on short skis, I have about as much desire for short skis as I do for flat beer, or being around crabby women.
That is the reason why I'm here in the forum and posting a lot, it is to learn from you guys the experts ! I like the FT62 and Rabb 68 (they are gorgeous looking) but as I said both of them are going back to REI. It still be foolish for me to get 2 new skis off the bat as a total newbie. I plan to stick with just one for the season, the Ingstad WL and learn my way around the sport. I am sure that I will be getting a second sticks soon that serve different need vs the touring/camping Ingstad WL.

Please do keep all the advise heading my way as I said, this has been a great forum board and I really appreciate everybody's help. Without everybody's help I would gave mounted my voile 3 pin binding on that 172cm Rabb68 and used that as my touring backpacking skis with the 58mm nylon skins :?

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Re: Which first Asnes ski to buy ?

Post by lowangle al » Thu Dec 30, 2021 6:38 pm

It's a good choice to go waxless for your first ski, but if you didn't mind dealing with kick wax I think the Rabb 68 with a cable binding and those leather boots would have been great. I was thinking about getting that ski for my first Asnes ski. I think it would be good with leather or light plastic boots.



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Re: Which first Asnes ski to buy ?

Post by freedom glider » Thu Dec 30, 2021 9:11 pm

i too just ordered Ingstad WLs from REI. made the choice mostly due to the great info on this forum. they're due to arrive in about a week.

the Ingstads will be my deep snow/making trails skis on rolling terrain. my long-term trusty karhu catamounts will (hopefully) become my rock skis.

also looking for a thinner/faster ski for the other end of the bc K&G spectrum - cant find e99 / transnordic 66s in 210 and am massively confused about the amundsen/gamme/ousland/sverdrup choice.

thanks to this forum and its dedicated contributors!



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Re: Which first Asnes ski to buy ?

Post by Nitram Tocrut » Thu Dec 30, 2021 10:15 pm

freedom glider wrote:
Thu Dec 30, 2021 9:11 pm
also looking for a thinner/faster ski for the other end of the bc K&G spectrum - cant find e99 / transnordic 66s in 210 and am massively confused about the amundsen/gamme/ousland/sverdrup choice.
You should look up for @lilcliffy in depth review of the Gamme and Admundsen. He is probably preparing a preliminary report on the Sverdrup as well ;)



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Re: Which first Asnes ski to buy ?

Post by Ullrsson » Thu Dec 30, 2021 11:51 pm

freedom glider wrote:
Thu Dec 30, 2021 9:11 pm
massively confused about the amundsen/gamme/ousland/sverdrup choice.

thanks to this forum and its dedicated contributors!
Ousland review thread
http://www.telemarktalk.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=2751
Gamme thread
http://www.telemarktalk.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=2889
Amundsen thread (a little self promotion, at least until @lilcliffy drops his comprehensive review).
http://www.telemarktalk.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=4513



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Re: Which first Asnes ski to buy ?

Post by Dxmetal » Fri Dec 31, 2021 12:04 am

freedom glider wrote:
Thu Dec 30, 2021 9:11 pm
i too just ordered Ingstad WLs from REI. made the choice mostly due to the great info on this forum. they're due to arrive in about a week.
What size ingstad WL did you get and whats your height and weight ? Did you get any skins to go with it as well ?



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Re: Which first Asnes ski to buy ?

Post by Dxmetal » Fri Dec 31, 2021 12:06 am

lowangle al wrote:
Thu Dec 30, 2021 6:38 pm
It's a good choice to go waxless for your first ski, but if you didn't mind dealing with kick wax I think the Rabb 68 with a cable binding and those leather boots would have been great. I was thinking about getting that ski for my first Asnes ski. I think it would be good with leather or light plastic boots.
I definitely will be eyeing on the Rabb 68 for my next skis ! I got my Ingstad WL to learn on and is for BC-XC exclusively. The Rabb 68 and FT 62 has that classic simple nordic design and they are gorgeous !



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Re: Which first Asnes ski to buy ?

Post by Dxmetal » Fri Dec 31, 2021 1:34 am

lowangle al wrote:
Thu Dec 30, 2021 6:38 pm
It's a good choice to go waxless for your first ski, but if you didn't mind dealing with kick wax I think the Rabb 68 with a cable binding and those leather boots would have been great. I was thinking about getting that ski for my first Asnes ski. I think it would be good with leather or light plastic boots.
Well, now will be a great time to do it as REI just have the new Rottefella Xplore binding available ! It will go well with the Rabb 68 and RT 62 https://www.rei.com/product/203137/rott ... i-bindings



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Re: Which first Asnes ski to buy ?

Post by lowangle al » Fri Dec 31, 2021 7:47 am

Dxmetal wrote:
Fri Dec 31, 2021 1:34 am
lowangle al wrote:
Thu Dec 30, 2021 6:38 pm
It's a good choice to go waxless for your first ski, but if you didn't mind dealing with kick wax I think the Rabb 68 with a cable binding and those leather boots would have been great. I was thinking about getting that ski for my first Asnes ski. I think it would be good with leather or light plastic boots.
Well, now will be a great time to do it as REI just have the new Rottefella Xplore binding available ! It will go well with the Rabb 68 and RT 62 https://www.rei.com/product/203137/rott ... i-bindings
I plan on checking them out when I go to REI in two weeks. If the boots feel good I may go for it.



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Re: Which first Asnes ski to buy ?

Post by fisheater » Fri Dec 31, 2021 8:59 am

@lowangle al What boot are you looking at and what binding system?



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