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Real reviews by real skiers. What a concept! Add your own today. Reviews only please, questions can be posted as replies but new threads looking for opinions should be posted to the main Telemark Talk Forum.
Have y'all ever tried ductaping you arms? The feeling is phenomenal when you pull it off.
Ahahahah! Didn't you know that there is a wax especially made for this? There is a wax for *everything*! You must know that as a wax enthusiast right?
Skin on skin works very well here... When needed of course... Plus, you can get MR48 replacement skins for a few bucks from Asnes... Hey, it's just like layering several layers of different wax colors... Without the mess...
/...\ Peace, Love, Telemark and Tofu /...\ "And if you like to risk your neck, we'll boom down Sutton in old Quebec..."
Ahahahah! Didn't you know that there is a wax especially made for this? There is a wax for *everything*! You must know that as a wax enthusiast right?
Yup, a wax for everything. Even I produce my own unique brand. For skins though, I wouldnot get overly concerned about the type of hardwax I would apply. Do you?
I live for the Telemark arc....The feeeeeeel.....I ski miles to get to a place where there is guaranteed snow to do the deal....TM
Musky do you think this is a bad idea - I would have to agree. Last year I left my Asnes mohair's on there for a couple weeks and decided to pull them off, inside at room temperature. A lot of the glue came off and stuck to the ski base.
Is this verboten? Should the skins always be ripped off in cold temps? that's what I'll do next time.
"All wisdom is to be gained through suffering"
-Will Lange (quoting Inuit chieftan)
Musky do you think this is a bad idea - I would have to agree. Last year I left my Asnes mohair's on there for a couple weeks and decided to pull them off, inside at room temperature. A lot of the glue came off and stuck to the ski base.
Is this verboten? Should the skins always be ripped off in cold temps? that's what I'll do next time.
Cannatonicky, I have absolutely no idea. This is something I was I hoping we could solve together as The Sintered Steep Hill Glue Detectives.
I've taken mine off at all temperatures in the past two seasons, come to think of it, and never had any problems at all. But this was the first time I'd taken off skins stuck to skins, it was not a perfect success, and I did it half-way up a mountain surrounded by Norwegians. I was trying to forensically work out what was up. My new theory is that hard wax on skins makes it OK to stick a skin to your skin and that ambient temperature isn't an issue. But I'm a wee bit nervous to test it now.
The type of hard wax doesn't matter much. In fact, unless you buy those crappy chinese wax bars on ebay made of leftover crayolas to ruin your bases, pretty much all brands of hardwax have a similar glide. Except for hot temps hard waxes, where I find some are better than others... And fluoro wax...
/...\ Peace, Love, Telemark and Tofu /...\ "And if you like to risk your neck, we'll boom down Sutton in old Quebec..."
The MR48 SKIN is really amazing at only 775g per ski at 200cm! (25% lighter than the Gamme!) Remember this is a wood core ski with ¾ steel edges, not a cheap Chinese noodle.
Elsewhere you say you only use these for XC, not BC. They do appear made for BC, though. What do you see as the plus or minus of the 3/4 metal edge? In my experience (which is quite dated) the only advantage of the 3/4 metal edge is in traversing a dicey slope.
Definitely a nordic backcountry ski... The term Mountain Race is quite appropriate. Plus, the combination of permanent skins and 3/4 edges makes them a perfect ice ski. They will go anywhere on ice, classic or skating style... Something that cannot be done with wax or scales...
/...\ Peace, Love, Telemark and Tofu /...\ "And if you like to risk your neck, we'll boom down Sutton in old Quebec..."
>>I've taken mine off at all temperatures in the past two seasons, come to think of it, and never had any problems at all.
interesting, maybe my glue came off because I had sticky kickwax underneath? Not sure. No doubt it's better to clean off the wax before applying the kicker skin but sometimes it's not possible.
I never had 3/4 length edges before, it seemed silly, but I became a convert after skiing the MT51's a couple times. They feel light on the feet like edgeless skis, but you get a feeling of stability underfoot on harder snow, and better control. Even going around flat curves in the trail it feels better, the skis don't wander as much. (I am skiing icy or hard snow much of the time). The tips flex & absorb little bumps better and give a more comfortable feel than full-edged skis.
"All wisdom is to be gained through suffering"
-Will Lange (quoting Inuit chieftan)
They feel light on the feet like edgeless skis, but you get a feeling of stability underfoot on harder snow, and better control. Even going around flat curves in the trail it feels better, the skis don't wander as much. (I am skiing icy or hard snow much of the time).
Yes, me too. I really agree with this. I was just thinking this.
