Which bindings and should I even use these skis

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Re: Which bindings and should I even use these skis

Post by connyro » Mon Feb 29, 2016 4:58 pm

rglide wrote:Maybe someone will invent a duckbill add- on. Turn any hiking boot into a tele boot.
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Re: Which bindings and should I even use these skis

Post by bgregoire » Mon Feb 29, 2016 5:50 pm

gitrinec wrote:bgregoire, I'm wondering if the Fischer bcx 675 would be a decent compromise just for the skis and just carry my Mountaineering boots.
Sure, there is nothing wrong with that option! As long as they are comfy. I'd consider sizing to allow for a vapor barrier sock. You'll be happy to return to dry boots after your climb. Also, super gaiters are a pretty neat addition (there's a pair for sale on the trade thread!) :mrgreen:
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Re: Which bindings and should I even use these skis

Post by gitrinec » Mon Feb 29, 2016 6:38 pm

bgregoire, I've got Expedition Gaiters so I'm good there.



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Re: Which bindings and should I even use these skis

Post by bgregoire » Mon Feb 29, 2016 6:47 pm

gitrinec wrote:bgregoire, I've got Expedition Gaiters so I'm good there.
I don't know what those are but Supergaiters protect the entire boot from getting wet from the outside. VBLs from the inside. But hey, its only a recommendation. I learned from not using them though and never go winter camping for more than 2 days using leather/synthetic boots without them. Happy travels!

By the way, my comment on the BC675 is considering does not involve steeps. That's why you bought the Asnes right?
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Re: Which bindings and should I even use these skis

Post by gitrinec » Tue Mar 01, 2016 4:56 pm

bgregoire, I believe there is only around a few thousand feet in elevation gain, maybe a bit more, I think there are only a few steeps where snowshoes would be used, as I'm not really a skier. I do plan on skiing some before I get there, so it should be interesting.



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Re: Which bindings and should I even use these skis

Post by bgregoire » Tue Mar 01, 2016 5:46 pm

gitrinec wrote:bgregoire, I believe there is only around a few thousand feet in elevation gain, maybe a bit more, I think there are only a few steeps where snowshoes would be used, as I'm not really a skier. I do plan on skiing some before I get there, so it should be interesting.
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Re: Which bindings and should I even use these skis

Post by gitrinec » Tue Mar 01, 2016 7:34 pm

bgregoire, with the skis or the trip?



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Re: Which bindings and should I even use these skis

Post by bgregoire » Tue Mar 01, 2016 7:50 pm

gitrinec wrote:bgregoire, with the skis or the trip?
the trip!
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Re: Which bindings and should I even use these skis

Post by lilcliffy » Thu Mar 03, 2016 5:04 am

Don't have any personal experience with the bindings you are thinking of using with your mountaineering boots.

Do have a lot of personal experience with mountaineering boots.

Do have a lot of experience with skiing.

Do have a pair of 210cm Asnes Combat skis.

Here are some thoughts.

Having the appropriate equipment for your technical climb is critical. I personally would not be fucking around with Nordic ski boots and trying to truly climb a mountain.

Those are true xcountry skis with a stiff flex and plenty of camber under foot. They are going to perform like hell with an extremely rigid-soled boot (i.e. mountaineering boot). Unless there is enough flex in the boot and binding, you are not going to be able to effectively engage the wax pocket underfoot- you are going to be slipping and sliding all over the place.

If you really want to use your stiff technical mountaineering boots for approach skiing- then I think you are going to want a ski with MUCH less camber underfoot (i.e. an "alpine touring" or "telemark" ski).

If you really want to use these skis (and they are excellent BTW- unless the terrain is extremely rugged), I don't see how you can avoid carrying your mountaineering boots...
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Re: Which bindings and should I even use these skis

Post by MikeK » Thu Mar 03, 2016 9:27 am

I watched the videos STG posted yesterday and I agree. This is serious terrain. Gannett Peak, the route they climbed, is STEEP! I know the snowshoes I have couldn't get up that. They are good for maybe 30deg depending on the snow type.

They were booting up with heavy Tele gear, not sure if they had crampons on, I would think so...

This is not Nordic boot terrain.

I also read about this peak and it seems to be quite a challenging trip. I'd seriously consider using AT or Tele gear for the ski in.



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