How Do I Turn?

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Manney
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Re: How Do I Turn?

Post by Manney » Fri Mar 31, 2023 10:10 pm

(Again) read the second and third sentences. They provide the context I wished to present.

“Unless it is to find a narrow set of groomed conditions on which to learn specific technique. Props in that case for development work.

If you’re trying to learn, develop, take the compliment. Or not. Depends on your approach to skiing.
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Re: How Do I Turn?

Post by TallGrass » Fri Mar 31, 2023 10:25 pm

Manney wrote:
Fri Mar 31, 2023 10:10 pm
(Again) read the second and third sentences. They provide the context I wished to present. Or enjoy finding offence where none is given.
I'm not personally offended. So taking your elements...

If P then Q:
"No self respecting XCDer would be at a resort. Unless it is to find a narrow set of groomed conditions on which to learn specific technique. Props in that case for development work."

If not Q then not P:
A XCD skier at a resort who is not there to "learn a specific technique" has no "self respect", in your opinion.

Note: I see you edited your post while I was typing my reply.



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Re: How Do I Turn?

Post by Manney » Fri Mar 31, 2023 10:31 pm

Respect is earned. Even self respect. You learn your turns and you earn your turns in different ways. Easy or hard. It’s up to you to determine the approach that generates the highest self respect. What other people think isn’t it.
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Re: How Do I Turn?

Post by TallGrass » Fri Mar 31, 2023 10:58 pm

Manney wrote:
Fri Mar 31, 2023 10:31 pm
Respect is earned. Even self respect. You learn your turns and you earn your turns in different ways. Easy or hard. It’s up to you to determine the approach that generates the highest self respect.
Self-respect: pride and confidence in oneself; a feeling that one is behaving with honor and dignity
Boiled down...
'No XCDer at a resort has pride and confidence in themself, unless it is ... for development work.'
strikes me as...
No True Scotsman, or appeal to purity, is an informal fallacy in which one attempts to protect their generalized statement from a falsifying counterexample by excluding the counterexample improperly.
same as "No true skier uses skis at XYZ place."

The concern or criticism of others based on where they ski seems more a form of projection in that
IF 'you' had enough 'pride and confidence' in yourself,
THEN you wouldn't care about where others choose to ski [P --> Q].
However, -Q --> -P.
Your comment "or enjoy finding offence" provided further context, which does not dissuade.


Personally, while it's easy to judge, I prefer not to where there's no need, rather give them the benefit of doubt that if I knew what they do (including reasons, circumstances, goals, abilities, for fun or work, etc.) I might have made a worse choice then they have. Alas I'm human, and sometimes fall short of even my goals. :mrgreen:



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