Musk Ox wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 4:03 am
Climate breakdown is extremely worrying. We had record-breaking snowfall up here a few seasons ago after the warmest December on record. It isn't a good sign in any way whatsoever.
"Climate Breakdown"? I don't know if not getting the snow amount you'd like can be called "breakdown." I know how that can feel because I've been there but climate can't "breakdown" it's just a physical process. These things are what they are and the fundamental reality of life is change. Planets with completely stable climates look like the Moon. The Moon has a climate and it NEVER changes because it is a dead planet. We shouldn't want a completely stable climate because it would mean the Earth is dead.
What has happened is that people have moved around and economies have emerged based on local climate. Without writing no one would even know things were changing. The people who lived on the exposed land between Alaska and Russia didn't know they were living on a "land bridge." And they didn't know the sea level was rising. It took 10,000 years and human life span is fleeting. I was at La Jolla around Thanksgiving and took pictures down at the beach. The surf is splashing against the same rocks is was a 100 years ago. You can prove this to yourself by looking at a 100 year old picture of La Jolla or New York City. There are a lot of
predictions that the oceans are rising but pictures don't lie.
Economics have simply allowed people to overcrowd beaches with houses and overcrowd ski slopes with skiers. (Somebody is making money off of all of this.) With such overcrowding any twitch is going cause big ripples. A hurricane that once wiped out a fishing village now causes $100Bn in damage, not because it is more intense but because people put things in its way. A warm winter that results in a loss of tourism income leaving people fretting about the end of the world used to be a blessing to get crops in the ground early. It's economics we're worried about. "How's it going to affect
me?"
Take Britain for instance. Is your home farther north than Britain? And yet, the Island of Britain stays quite warm compared to other places at that same latitude. It's relatively warm because a fascinating mechanism moves the heat there, and it isn't the Gulf Stream. Our oceans and the atmosphere are fluids and, as such, when they move they take the heat with them, often in very, very hidden and beautiful ways*. Sometimes these become established patterns, we call this climate. But these patterns experience constant flux. We call this weather. If we were good at predicting it there wouldn't be error bars (%) on the weather report.
I saw on the Weather Channel the other day a question asking how much warmer, on average, has Los Angeles become in the last 50 years. The answer was 7 degrees F. Man, that's some global warming! Or maybe it is just the elimination of all the green spaces and croplands people put in that desert using water that didn't fall there. They've turned it into a rock desert, like the Mojave. The Mojave is on the same parallel as the Southeast of the United States but the Southeast is a LOT cooler. Why? The water evaporating from plants keeps it cooler, and more humid. But we've been conditioned to think it's global warming.
So what you're calling Climate Breakdown, isn't climate breakdown at all. There may be economic breakdown, but economic systems aren't physical systems. They are man-mad systems driven by greed and need, in that order. Economic breakdown is very worrisome if it is your economy that is breaking down. Far worse is an emerging political class (nobility) that is taking from you the very means to build your own economic future and convincing you (peasant) that its for your own good (serf). This is almost the definition of feudalism and you can bet the people denying you resources to build
your future are using them to build
their future. Follow that trail and you'll find truth.
*See global thermohaline conveyor
