Physics debate
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Re: Physics debate
Yes, it is!
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- Stephen
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Re: Physics debate
Page 34.
Do I hear 35?
Anyone, do I hear 35, 35?
Going once, going twice, …
Do I hear 35?
Anyone, do I hear 35, 35?
Going once, going twice, …
Re: Physics debate
True, yet I propose that the cable in combination with the boot sole, is effectively, a lever system. It's a springy, bendy kind of lever but a lever none the less.
So, where is the fulcrum in this system? Well, it should be at the ball of the foot. My proposal assumes that the skier is using good form, keeping the BOF down. If the BOF is down, the fulcrum is at the BOF of the boot sole. Remember, a fulcrum is much less a thing, than it is a place.
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Re: Physics debate
Just saying...
There is a big dump in the forecast for the Ottawa region for the next 2 days so @GrimSurfer will be able to go skiing and hopefully some of the others guys... you know who you are
There is a big dump in the forecast for the Ottawa region for the next 2 days so @GrimSurfer will be able to go skiing and hopefully some of the others guys... you know who you are
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Re: Physics debate
You bet. 30-40 cm coming over the next two days. Sunday/Monday conditions should be pretty darned good. The days after that will also be great because temps are likely to stay below 0C.Nitram Tocrut wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 3:44 pmJust saying...
There is a big dump in the forecast for the Ottawa region for the next 2 days so @GrimSurfer will be able to go skiing and hopefully some of the others guys... you know who you are
Quebec is looking very good in the days ahead too, n’est pas?
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Re: Physics debate
Once you say “spring”, you’re back into a net force deal… input force = output force, ergo net force = 0. Fortunately, you’re using the NASA term “springy, bendy kind of lever”.jalp wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 3:40 pmTrue, yet I propose that the cable in combination with the boot sole, is effectively, a lever system. It's a springy, bendy kind of lever but a lever none the less.
So, where is the fulcrum in this system? Well, it should be at the ball of the foot. My proposal assumes that the skier is using good form, keeping the BOF down. If the BOF is down, the fulcrum is at the BOF of the boot sole. Remember, a fulcrum is much less a thing, than it is a place.
I agree that the fulcrum could be the ball of foot. But this would be problematic because we’re back to a force and mass discussion (since all force exerted by the skier based on mass transfer goes through the ball of foot anyway when the heel is raise. So what is the net benefit of the cables, from a force perspective?
These are some of the problems one is confronted with when looking at the cable as a lever, spring, etc.
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Re: Physics debate
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Re: Physics debate
Page 35, page 35, the gentleman in the back, do I hear 35?
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Re: Physics debate
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Re: Physics debate
Sorry, I don't know. I've been assimilated.