Physics debate

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Stephen
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Re: Physics debate

Post by Stephen » Wed Jan 04, 2023 2:46 pm

エイダン.シダル wrote:
Wed Jan 04, 2023 2:13 pm
Verskis wrote:
Tue Jan 03, 2023 5:00 pm
Stephen wrote:
Tue Jan 03, 2023 3:59 pm


Let me flesh that out…
I have the sense that often, when something has been put to you directly on the forum, you tend to dodge directly answering the question.
This makes it difficult to make progress in a discussion, which is evidenced by two of the longest posts in recent TTalk history.
I have gotten the same feeling. Takes the fun out of the debate, an argument should meet either a counter-argument, or acceptance.
"They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”

- Jean-Paul Sartre

https://www.stephenhicks.org/2021/04/22 ... %2C%201946.
This oddly reminds me of some conversations with my wife, bless her soul.
I don't know how she puts up with me sometimes...

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Re: Physics debate

Post by エイダン.シダル » Wed Jan 04, 2023 2:54 pm

Not sure how that's meant... Anyway, Sarte nails how trolls argue, long before there was an Internet. There's no point engaging with them honestly, because they're uninterested in honesty. If moderators won't block them, best not to feed the trolls.



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Re: Physics debate

Post by Lhartley » Wed Jan 04, 2023 3:17 pm

The guy is having a discussion about bindings and you're comparing him to antisemites.



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Re: Physics debate

Post by bauerb » Wed Jan 04, 2023 3:21 pm

longer poles feel heavier because the center of mass becomes farther from your hand, requiring more torque to accelerate the center of mass forward.....its either that or a "hand control" issue in your head.



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Re: Physics debate

Post by Stephen » Wed Jan 04, 2023 3:31 pm

エイダン.シダル wrote:
Wed Jan 04, 2023 2:54 pm
Not sure how that's meant... Anyway, Sarte nails how trolls argue, long before there was an Internet. There's no point engaging with them honestly, because they're uninterested in honesty. If moderators won't block them, best not to feed the trolls.
The quote made me laugh out loud and seems similar to situations where, when the conversation is not going her way, it becomes a good time to end this silly conversation.
That's all I meant.



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Re: Physics debate

Post by エイダン.シダル » Wed Jan 04, 2023 3:42 pm

Lhartley wrote:
Wed Jan 04, 2023 3:17 pm
The guy is having a discussion about bindings and you're comparing him to antisemites.
Actually, no: the rhetorical style, as you'd admit if you commented in good faith. But it's curious how people with conservative political views do argue like the people Sartre criticises. They should probably reflect on that...



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Re: Physics debate

Post by エイダン.シダル » Wed Jan 04, 2023 3:45 pm

Has nobody else noticed all the trolls have accounts since late 2022? How odd.



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Re: Physics debate

Post by Lhartley » Wed Jan 04, 2023 3:58 pm

Yeah, I have a new account. I'm new to telemarking and I enjoy reading about the subject. In the last couple weeks I've made my first turns and the activity on this forum has helped that incredibly. The "troll" you are referring to has increased traffic on this forum 10x. It's undeniable. Whether they're right or wrong, they're contributing. And you're comparing them to antisemites. Sorry, but it's gaslighting. And not surprising from somebody constantly mentioning the friend/foe function. It's a public forum, trolls contribute just like their critics, and gets everybody thinking.



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Re: Physics debate

Post by TheMusher » Wed Jan 04, 2023 4:12 pm

Where’s the antisemite? Honest question.
Hope it’s not Stephen’s wife..!



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Re: Physics debate

Post by Lhartley » Wed Jan 04, 2023 4:13 pm

Read the link conveniently provided with the Sartre quote for context



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