JohnSKepler wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 8:31 am
GrimSurfer wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 11:31 pm
Interesting. I ski BC65s at the moment and am looking to add a wider ski next year. Was looking at the Combat NATO, which would be quite different.
The Gamme seems to me to have a superb configuration for open country… moderate width, modest side cut. This positions the Gamme for a fair fight against the BC65 (As opposed to skis like the Sverdrup and Combat which are far different in terms of width and side cut ratios).
I’m not looking for a better BC65, which turns pretty well for me. I’m looking for a ski with better float and comparable tracking/turning. Still, it’s hard to ignore the flexibility of what a better “sub 70mm” ski could bring to the game.
I will be logging lots of kilometers in two different locations this winter, One “big snow” the other “moderate, dry powder”. So I guess I need to critically analyze my needs before deciding on which Asnes to buy.
Good reading everyone’s views. Just hard to decide at the moment.
I wouldn’t call the Gamme a better BC65 and there is more to float than width. A Subaru WRX isn’t a better Impreza. It is a completely different car. Similar sheet metal. Same size. DIFFERENT car. It’s not even really fair to compare the Gamme and the BC65. They are simply not in the same class.
My point was that the general dimensions of the Gamme and BC65 are close enough to make a fair/fair comparison.
Gamme 68 54 61, metal edge
BC65 65 53 60, metal edge
There’s a mere 5cm length difference in my weight range (Gamme 200 cm, BC65 195 cm). As you know, a jump in size/weight range is normally 10 cm, so a 5 cm difference is about as small as one typically sees.
One is (grip) waxable and can take a skin (Gamme) the other is waxless (BC65), but that’s not enough to put them into separate classes in my view. If one did that, then Asnes would need to rethink how it markets the same models of waxless/waxable skis in its own line.
The power plant driving both skis is identical, unless the Gamme comes with a subscription for anabolic steroids or high altitude conditioning.
This is not to say they perform the same way in any or all conditions. The really interesting point people make is that there is a difference in performance. Same class, apparently better ski. Hence my interest. I don’t want a better BC65. I want my next ski to do more or can do better than my BC65 in the conditions in which I ski. THAT was my point.
Anyhow, good to read about your experience with the Gammes nonetheless. That was my other point. LOL.
(I’ve edited this quite a few times to stay on topic. I’d love to debate cars with you (have owned four models of Subaru and have written two books on cars) but might bore the hole off folks who come here to discuss skiing.
We dreamed of riding waves of air, water, snow, and energy for centuries. When the conditions were right, the things we needed to achieve this came into being. Every idea man has ever had up to that point about time and space were changed. And it keeps on changing whenever we dream. Bio mechanical jazz, man.
