DIY pattern base

[Ziggy]

And they would constitute a positive pattern?

What ski base are they most like?

[Johnny]

Double-positive...!

They are a bit like the Fischer Offtrack Crown base... But more aggresive... This "skin" is built to climb, the scales are almost sharp! A small strip could be enough, 30, 40 or 50mm according to your taste...

[Ziggy]

How would it work with my skis which are 98mm underfoot?

[Johnny]

Well, the most important thing here is how you are going to attach the scales half-skins... Both Asnes and Fischer attachment systems are very effective, but if you don't already have the inserts on your skis, I don't think it's worth messing with... Old-style kickers straps and plates were not effective at all for yo-yoing and K&G... The best would be to play around with the Profoil on an Asnes or Fischer ski, then once you found what is best for what you do, just add the profoils strips permanently on your favorite ski...

[Ziggy]

Yes. Thanks.
But going negative was a key goal - to reduce stickiness in the telemark lead change.

[Ziggy]

So to resurrect this thread ....

There's another pair of skis to do, Majesty Adventures. Said to be a tele ski or at least good for telemarks.

With an 85mm waist they're a good bit narrower than the V6s which I find flappy on hardpack and wider than is needed for our typical heavy/wet/icy conditions in Australia.

Now I'm aiming for wider 'straighter' crescents and using a 1" bit.

I'll stick with a length of 60cm (c. 2'), 15mm pitch. Not sure about 2 lines or 3. The narrower waist means more weight by area and so more pressing in of the voids, and maybe 2 is enough.

[riel]

Double-positive...!

They are a bit like the Fischer Offtrack Crown base... But more aggresive... This "skin" is built to climb, the scales are almost sharp! A small strip could be enough, 30, 40 or 50mm according to your taste...

Do those ProFoil skins still work well when they are cut to a narrower size?

Could they be suitable as kicker skins, or only as full length skins?

They are currently on closeout sale and I'm wondering whether I should grab the widest pair they have and get creative...

[Ziggy]

Here's the job on the Majesty Adventures.

Differences from Mark I:

1. 1" bit instead of 3/4". Overall this has produced more edge and less void.
2. skis held in a vice maintaining the camber.

1. has given me more edge running across the ski; the voids are crescents rather than semi-circles.
2. avoided clamping which wasn't that kind to the ski but did change the cutting geometry in places necessitating some hand work.

I used a standard bit but next time would use a flat-bottomed bit.

I used a bevel-edge chisel taking some fine shavings off to better blend the inside of the crescent with the base.

They'll get a run next week in our southern hemisphere winter.

The Majesties are polish-made skis that are very well finished and perform well in the intended role of resort and side-country telemarking.
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[Ziggy]

I've now had about 20 days on the the Mark 2 base and am happy with how they've performed.

Down Under snow is generally firm. The days with a loose top or hail on top weren't the best but they were in a distinct minority.

The Majesty has proven to be a pleasing ski - nimble and fun to play with. However, frozen corduroy on piste causes a lot of vibration. That's the early rise apparently.

[Ziggy]

Another comment about routing ...

Next time around I'd use a straight bit that was designed to cut at the bottom as well. Can't remember what the tech term is.

And regarding hot wax and the scales ...

A generous hot wax for storage leaves a bit of wax in some of the scales and it needs scraping out for winter use. That doesn't bother me much - a once a year job - but an alternative would be to use liquid wax. I regularly use liquid wax anyway on the edges, between outings, to stop them corroding.