Fischer Transnordic BOOT

[fisheater]

@lilcliffy , Gareth, I forget who, but someone posted about heat molding those plastic stiffener’s to flex out instead of in. I’m pretty sure it was one of the mountain west guys.
To the boot molder, I apologize, I like reading your stuff sometimes I just mind fart!

[lilcliffy]

Hey Bob,
I am not experiencing any direct discomfort or pressure points from the interior skeleton in the boot- I have no need to reshape/widen the plastic interior skeleton, as I don't have wide feet. These are medium-width boots and fit my feet quite well.

The issue is that that interior skeleton extends forwards into the toe box- this is a bizarre design and construction for a boot that is supposedly intended for Nordic touring. If the skeleton was shorter (like it is in an Extreme/Svartisen) it would not interfere with the sole flex and striding performance of this boot.

If I as only going to skate and ski downhill (using Alpine technique) these boots would be fine- excellent in fact.
The construction of this boot limits traditional Nordic touring and downhill technique.

I have had them out a few times this spring. The support and leverage they offer is second to none- easily equivalent to a Asolo Extreme or a Svartisen (when it is all tightened up). WOW- can one carve with the Trans BC!

And considering that I already have a Svartisen BC (and an Extreme 75)- both of which offer smoother, freeer sole flex- I really have no use for the Transnordic BC...I am actually considering selling them while they are still as good as new.

[CwmRaider]

@lilcliffy I do not have the same impression from the 75mm version of this boot, perhaps the way the binding locks to the sole forces the 75mm to flex more evenly?

[TheMusher]

I have the exact same problem as @lilcliffy mentions here, and have made the exact same reflection.

Essentially, the plastic skeleton beam pushes straight into the toe when aggressively pushing the tele stance - irrespective of shoe size or foot shape.

Two hours with lift service left me with some serious blown up toes ..

I'm unfortunately prepared to discard these for downhill skiing and accept that this has been money down the drain. I guess they could still work for very lax Nordic skiing (with THICK socks).

Incredibly disappointed with Fischer's design department here. Do they even stress test these before launch?

Back to Lundhags Guide Expedition..

[TheMusher]

In continuation of the above.

@lilcliffy - I've been weighing in a stop at the shoemaker, for dissecting the shoes and shortening internal plastic beam (to avoid these crashing into the toe box).

Think it's worth a shot?

[lilcliffy]

In continuation of the above.

@lilcliffy - I've been weighing in a stop at the shoemaker, for dissecting the shoes and shortening internal plastic beam (to avoid these crashing into the toe box).

Think it's worth a shot?

Interesting idea!
Let us know if you try this.

I think I am going to sell mine.

I am going to work on getting an eyelet or two at the top of my Svartisen BC.

[lilcliffy]

@lilcliffy I do not have the same impression from the 75mm version of this boot, perhaps the way the binding locks to the sole forces the 75mm to flex more evenly?

Good question- I haven't seen the 75mm version- would be interesting to try them both on back-to-back...

Did you see the photos of my boot being flexed- that's with an extra thick insole inserted- they are even worse with the stock insole.

How does the flex point/crease look-feel on your foot in the 75mm version?

[dave52]

The issue is that that interior skeleton extends forwards into the toe box- this is a bizarre design and construction for a boot that is supposedly intended for Nordic touring. If the skeleton was shorter (like it is in an Extreme/Svartisen) it would not interfere with the sole flex and striding performance of this boot.

If I as only going to skate and ski downhill (using Alpine technique) these boots would be fine- excellent in fact.
The construction of this boot limits traditional Nordic touring and downhill technique.

I have had them out a few times this spring. The support and leverage they offer is second to none- easily equivalent to a Asolo Extreme or a Svartisen (when it is all tightened up). WOW- can one carve with the Trans BC!

And considering that I already have a Svartisen BC (and an Extreme 75)- both of which offer smoother, freeer sole flex- I really have no use for the Transnordic BC...I am actually considering selling them while they are still as good as new.

Aw, bummer man, was really hoping this might be thee nordic downhill boot for BC bindings. I appreciate your review though, and also apologize if I hyped you and others into snagging a pair.

I was hoping the strange forward folding point was something that just needed to be broken in but sounds like it's the inside skeleton based on what you said. Not to nullify anyone else's experience, I haven't experienced any pinching or discomfort while striding and doing teles, other than it's harder to bend the boot to get onto ball of foot. The longest haul I had was maybe 10 miles on these though.

I totally forgot about the BC Svartisen, maybe I should've went that direction. Or maybe I keep sidestepping a 75mm setup

[JB TELE]

Has anyone used the new 2023 transnordics? I'm wondering if they addressed any of the issues I'm reading about in this thread.

[JohnSKepler]

Any experience on how these compare to the Alfa Free? I've heard the bend point makes it hard to get the ball of the foot down for Tele and it would seem that the lack of bellows compromises the traditional Nordic use. I'm still hoping the Alpina Pioneer Vital might be the best compromise yet but we'll have to wait and see on that.