Rottefella NNN-BC Template

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Re: Rottefella NNN-BC Template

Post by corlay » Thu Apr 07, 2022 11:01 am

I mounted a bunch of Rottefella NNN-BC this winter, and I didn't really use the paper template.

1. Find center line of ski (determined from base/metal edges and NOT the top sheet), and make witness marks on the top-sheet.
2. Find balance-point of each ski, and make witness marks on sides and top-sheet. NOTE: if the balance point of each ski is slightly different, either decide on a "reasonable average", or dont let your OCD nag you and simply let the balance-point be a hair different on each ski ;-)
3. Set the binding on the ski, position so: a) toe bar is at balance-point, and b) binding screw holes are aligned with the ski center line. Temporarily affix in-place with spring clamps.
4. Temporarily place a wood screw (small enough diameter to easily fit without threading) through each of the holes, and dimple the top-sheet with a knock from a hammer.
4. Remove binding and drill each hole (at the dimple locations) to appropriate depth.
5. Add glue to the holes
6. Install binding and screw-down tightly so all screw locations cinch the bottom of binding tightly to ski top-sheet.
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Re: Rottefella NNN-BC Template

Post by RandoRichard » Thu Apr 07, 2022 11:31 am

No thank you, but thanks for the offer. I have the PDF template and a laser printer.



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Re: Rottefella NNN-BC Template

Post by Stephen » Thu Apr 07, 2022 5:52 pm

@RandoRichard, Make sure to check that the template you print is printed at a 1:1 scale.
(There is that 150mm scale at the top to check that.)

As far as mount point, shoe size *generally* correlates to ski length, so the binding ends up in about the right place, e.g., someone with a size 8 shoe is not going to be on a 210cm ski, and someone with a size 12 shoe not on a 180cm ski, generally speaking.
Not quite as precise as Alpine / AT boot midpoint location, but close enough, I guess.

I’m guessing that “pin line on balance point” has something to do with how the skis ski for classic XC, and has carried over for most things XC (someone correct me if I’m mistaken).
There are binding systems that are adjustable — forward for grip and back for glide, for example.



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Re: Rottefella NNN-BC Template

Post by snow-mark » Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:23 pm

Resurrecting an old thread, sorry. I, of course, mistakenly tore the template that came with my bindings, so I need to print a new one. Rottefella sure doesn’t make it easy. The template actual size 11.7 x 16 inches (at least for NNN-BC Magnum). What the heck?? Even on legal paper you’re going to lose 0.7 inches. Ok, fine, I can do without the 0.7 inches toward the back of the binding. But then the 150mm measure to check that it printed properly is on that side and when you cut off the 0.7 inches you lose part of it. I was able to check the template by just laying the binding on it and it’s perfect. But still, that’s annoying.

I’m assuming that once I have the screw holes for the front of the binding marked accurately, I can pick where my heel plate will be located without using the template.



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Re: Rottefella NNN-BC Template

Post by GrimSurfer » Sun Dec 11, 2022 2:15 pm

Yup.
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Re: Rottefella NNN-BC Template

Post by banjo1000 » Tue Jan 10, 2023 2:16 pm

The URL for templates on the Rottefella site posted in this thread appear to be broken. I am trying to find a template for a different binding:

ROTTEFELLA - BASIC AUTO NNN BINDING

I have 3 vintage pair of x/c touring skis. The oldest, a Kneissel waxed touring ski was my first pair of x/c skis from 1978 that is perfectly good. They have been gathering dust for 33 years because they have 3-pin bindings. I would like to update to this low end NNN binding which is available online for ~$35.

Would anyone have a template or a URL for a template? Thanks! Joe



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Re: Rottefella NNN-BC Template

Post by GrimSurfer » Tue Jan 10, 2023 3:25 pm

banjo1000 wrote:
Tue Jan 10, 2023 2:16 pm
The URL for templates on the Rottefella site posted in this thread appear to be broken. I am trying to find a template for a different binding:

ROTTEFELLA - BASIC AUTO NNN BINDING

I have 3 vintage pair of x/c touring skis. The oldest, a Kneissel waxed touring ski was my first pair of x/c skis from 1978 that is perfectly good. They have been gathering dust for 33 years because they have 3-pin bindings. I would like to update to this low end NNN binding which is available online for ~$35.

Would anyone have a template or a URL for a template? Thanks! Joe
Don’t get bummed if you can’t get a template. The best template in the world is the actual binding. That’s what you’re mounting after all.

Use the tape method posted by @Nick BC. Just mark the holes precisely in the centre using a fine tipped market, awl, or even a sharp nail. No drilling until you’re satisfied that everything is 100% aligned and correct.

Start the holes with the finest (smallest) bit to create a shallow pilot hole. This will help prevent the actual binding bit from walking.
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