Asnes Mountain Race 48 SKIN

[beeeweee]

I have a pair of these and they're good (photographic evidence in profile pic). How many outings do you have left this season? I may be able to help you track a pair down.

Thanks @Musk Ox, appreciate your help. I don’t think I have many outings left in this season with these skis. Maybe 2-3 depending on how much I want to push the spring skiing before transitioning to hiking. At this point, I’m mainly thinking about gearing up for next winter so I can wait.

[beeeweee]

After waiting 3 full working days from Asnes with no reply, I bit the bullet and ordered the 190 with 35mm Mohair X-Skins. Hopefully, I’ll have a chance to take it out at least 1-2 days before the end of the season to see how well they work.

[wabene]

The Madshus M50, the MT51and the MR48 are very similar skis. I have the Madshus and I find when I get over 20mph, 32kph on packed steeps the tips tend to wander side to side as I weight my heals on the down. Sometimes I just ride this out, sometimes I snowplow to get it under control. The other day I was flying down icy crust on a wide open slope and it started happening with my right ski so I tried weighting my toe and immediately caught an edge and went down hard. I have two questions. I believe a difference between the Madshus and Åsnes skis mentioned is some nordic rocker and a softer tip in the Madshus. Would this be the reason for the instability at speed? Would de-tuning the front of the metal edges help to allow me to pressure the front of the ski?

[lowangle al]

The Madshus M50, the MT51and the MR48 are very similar skis. I have the Madshus and I find when I get over 20mph, 32kph on packed steeps the tips tend to wander side to side as I weight my heals on the down. Sometimes I just ride this out, sometimes I snowplow to get it under control. The other day I was flying down icy crust on a wide open slope and it started happening with my right ski so I tried weighting my toe and immediately caught an edge and went down hard. I have two questions. I believe a difference between the Madshus and Åsnes skis mentioned is some nordic rocker and a softer tip in the Madshus. Would this be the reason for the instability at speed? Would de-tuning the front of the metal edges help to allow me to pressure the front of the ski?

It might not be the tips that are causing that wandering. When I used to ski double camber skis the only time they carved well is when they are heavily weighted to squash down the camber underfoot. When they aren't weighted, the underfoot portion (wax pocket) of the ski edge doesn't make good contact with the snow causing what to me felt squirrly. A similar ski with single camber will carve without being heavily weighted and will hold that carve even after the ski decompresses. This is when a dbl camber ski gets squirrly.

This is basically why double camber skis turn so much better in soft snow. Edging isn't that critical and the soft snow gives your tips something to push against to start the turn.

[beeeweee]

After waiting 3 full working days from Asnes with no reply, I bit the bullet and ordered the 190 with 35mm Mohair X-Skins. Hopefully, I’ll have a chance to take it out at least 1-2 days before the end of the season to see how well they work.

I finally got a response from Asnes and, to my relief, they also felt 190 would be more ideal for me given my use case.

[beeeweee]

The Madshus M50, the MT51and the MR48 are very similar skis. I have the Madshus and I find when I get over 20mph, 32kph on packed steeps the tips tend to wander side to side as I weight my heals on the down. Sometimes I just ride this out, sometimes I snowplow to get it under control. The other day I was flying down icy crust on a wide open slope and it started happening with my right ski so I tried weighting my toe and immediately caught an edge and went down hard. I have two questions. I believe a difference between the Madshus and Åsnes skis mentioned is some nordic rocker and a softer tip in the Madshus. Would this be the reason for the instability at speed? Would de-tuning the front of the metal edges help to allow me to pressure the front of the ski?

When you say your M50 is wandering side to side, I’m assuming you mean they’re fishtailing? I’ve never had this on the M50 yet and I skied some somewhat icy terrain over the weekend. My top speed according to my Garmin was a bit over 29km/h but I didn’t have any issues with stability. My edges were pretty much brand new and I didn’t do anything to de-tune the edges. In my experience, side-to-side fishtailing leads me to think that you may benefit from a more stiffer boot or something with more ankle support. If the terrain is not well groomed and there’s some chunky hard stuff, it can deflect your ski so the only way to counteract that is to have a stronger connection between your leg and the ski.

I’m skiing the M50 with 21/22 Salomon S/Race Classic boots with a carbon sole and heal cup which offers pretty good lateral and longitudinal stiffness while allowing for good flex when kicking so it’s possible that the boot has something to do with it. I’ve skied on some Rossignol X8 classic boots on skinny race skis and they definitely felt less confidence inspiring compared to the S/Race Classic.

As far as de-tuning goes, I’ve only done this on my AT skis when I wanted to make the ski more easy to slide, pivot, and be more playful. De-tuning the front edges can help if the tips are soft and the edges alternate between grabbing and releasing, either when doing a parallel turn or snow plowing, making for some very jerky descents. If the front tips are stiff, then you’re better just to put more weight on the front tips, which is easier with a locked heel than a free heel setup. One other thing maybe worth trying if you need more pressure on the tips is to go with a stiffer toe bumper on the binding.

I’m pretty new to XC so take everything with a grain of salt.

[wabene]

Thanks for the replies. Since this has only happened over 20mph on either hard packed steeps that were scoured smooth from everybody snowplowing or just sheet ice, maybe a little speed control is in order in those conditions . I've hit 25 mph in better conditions and they were smooth. My Gammes on the other hand are always smooth at speed and just go where they are pointed.

[beeeweee]

In case anyone’s interested, I’ve added my initial impressions here: https://telemarktalk.com/viewtopic.php? ... 125#p50125

[Charlynor]

Hey,

Can someone tell me how the 190cm MR48 is really is? I can get one pair but the seller is telling me that they are 185cm long… :/

I am 75kg with backpack etc.

[Stephen]

You may already know that the skis come in just these sizes (from Asnes website):
length 180,190,200,210

If the seller is physically measuring the skis, then maybe they can somehow come up with 185, but the skis should be marked somewhere with the length.
If they are actually 190 cm, that should be a good length for you.

Again, Asnes says this:
Body length____Weight (kg)___Ski length
-170 cm________-70_________180 cm
170-180________70-80_______190
180-190________80-90_______200
190+___________90+________210