Powder Touring Ski? Voile Hyper V6 BC?

[lowangle al]

Al, pretty sure gramps thinks e99s can do anything. cold fusion? room temperature superconductors? faster than light travel? e99 can do it.

They can do it all, just not all of the time in every place. I always said that with heavier gear you'll have more fun, more of the time.

[lowangle al]

Al, pretty sure gramps thinks e99s can do anything. cold fusion? room temperature superconductors? faster than light travel? e99 can do it.

Dude, one of these days, you’re going to be gramps and I can just about guarantee that the future young wiper snappers that are taking our world to hell in a hand basket will not think you’re as hip as you think you might be. Try and remember that “What goes around comes around.”
Peace out…

Gt does get carried away with the virtues of the e99s. I think he was an early adapter of spreading misinformation and injecting irrelevant info in threads probably confusing newbys looking for advice.

[Stephen]

Al, pretty sure gramps thinks e99s can do anything. cold fusion? room temperature superconductors? faster than light travel? e99 can do it.

Dude, one of these days, you’re going to be gramps and I can just about guarantee that the future young wiper snappers that are taking our world to hell in a hand basket will not think you’re as hip as you think you might be. Try and remember that “What goes around comes around.”
Peace out…

Gt does get carried away with the virtues of the e99s. I think he was an early adapter of spreading misinformation and injecting irrelevant info in threads probably confusing newbys looking for advice.

I’m fine with pushback and a bit of humor — but, for me, “gramps” sorta crosses the disrespect line.

EDIT: Removed text — I decided to take the high road…

[connyro]

I’m fine with pushback and a bit of humor — but, for me, “gramps” sorta crosses the disrespect line.

EDIT: Removed text — I decided to take the high road…

well high road or not he's been referred to as "gramps" forever. Like since the days of the old, original telemarktips site where his username was "GT" (for grandpa tele). So chill dude. Gramps and I (and many others) have been agitating each other for decades. Go nanny elsewhere.

[lilcliffy]

Ahhh- Voile V6- me want.
Though I am almost convinced that I want the waxable base-
our waxless-scale season is so short here- and even when it comes the conditions are really only suitable for trail skiing (which is NOT V6 skiing)-
My local V6 skiing is in mid-winter- in deep cold soft snow...WAX.

[connyro]

Ahhh- Voile V6- me want.
Though I am almost convinced that I want the waxable base-
our waxless-scale season is so short here- and even when it comes the conditions are really only suitable for trail skiing (which is NOT V6 skiing)-
My local V6 skiing is in mid-winter- in deep cold soft snow...WAX.

When the scales arent enough for breaking trail or setting an uptrack with the Koms, V6 BCs and Vector BCs, we usually break trail and set uptracks with skins and then just use scales when doing laps using the same uptracks once the packed snow "sets up" and allow the scales to grip. To me, the scales on V6 type skis are one the best features. YMMV due to differing snow and technique.

[lowangle al]

I agree with Conny about the scales being one of their best features. Even though I’ve been kick waxing all of my alpine skis for years I’m beginning to see that the scales may be the way to go even when waxing conditions are good. Unless your wax is perfect the extra glide you get from the smooth base is offset by the efficiency of the kick from the scales. It takes less energy to set the scales for a kick than it does to set kickwax. I find I don’t use my arms as much and can go faster while keeping my heart rate down. It’s enough of a benefit to override the better downhill feel and glide for turns too.

[lowangle al]

Add to the above that you don’t have to deal with kick wax at all throughout the day as temps change.

The reason why the kick is so good is because the bases are designed for use with AT gear and free pivot bindings. Yet they still glide good.

LC I would think about getting the hyper version. Every time I pick up my hyper vectors I’m amazed at how light they are. We’ll worth the extra hundred bucks imo.

[grm]

I have the V6 BC’s. They are great, and I also use vector BC’s and G3 xcd 94’s.

The BC’s turn and float overall the best, but the others are close.

I find if I can manage to set a skin track without risers, it’s slack enough then to lap with scales only.

[lowangle al]

I will add that my wife has the V6 bc and the original vector bc. Although she seems to keep up just as well with the V6 she much prefers touring on her Vectors because they track better. Even though the Vectors WERE her best ski for the downhill, the V6 is even better. I don't think she has ever fallen with the V6.