Fischer Transnordic BOOT

[Stephen]

Interesting.
I just posted something similar / related here:
http://www.telemarktalk.com/viewtopic.p ... aafb781e7d
(See insole tracing picture at bottom of post.)

[Inspiredcapers]

For my second outing with my new Transnordic BC’s I did a 19 mile jaunt yesterday. The interior volume suits my feet quite nicely- no tingling toes and the ache I would get on my instep has gone away. I snugged the heel straps as much as I could and it seemed to keep my heel planted. I doubled up for socks (Five Toes first then a medium weight hiking sock)…can’t say that my feet ever felt too hot or cold. The boots gave a lot of stability breaking trail (I was in knee to hip depth frequently- it’s safe to say I didn’t see my skis/boots for about 5 miles. It got heavier as the sun came out and the snow became consolidated. Asnes X-Skins to the rescue.). Kick n’ glide in these boots was a sheer pleasure to experience (this is my first NNN-BC experience-wonderful!).

I had to boot it for about 3 miles on my way out (grader came to clear the stretch of road I’d skied in on, getting off to the sides was difficult due to steepness and darkness). Walking didn’t feel much different than heavy winter work boots but I wouldn’t recommend it.

The only issues I’ve got are a couple of small blisters on the insides of my feet (roughly where the navicular tuberosity is located) and I’m pretty sure those came from walking. Looking inside the Transnordics I see some extra padding in that location so I’ll try a wrap of Luekotape on my feet next time out…hopefully the padding in that area relaxes a bit and ceases to be an issue.

I like them.

[Krummholz]

Not a real review of the Transnordic 75 EU43. Third outing with the boot, mainly to make some turns. I have added a flat neoprene insole and Superfeet Green to try and correct my tibia bone on the inside right foot from rubbing on what feels like a plastic edge under the padding. Its probably there around the ankle area to stiffen the boot. I have a high arch and the tibia and navicular maybe protrude more? Its an issue I have had with boots in the past. I still have my rear entry Solomon 92 Equips, as in 1992, with custom insoles, because they are the only Alpine boot I could find that didn't kill my feet. The Transnordics are very padded compared to the Alaska and especially the Ski March. For me they have plenty of toe room. After a couple of hours of skiing I have to stop and tighten up the laces more, an extra 4-5 inches. After a couple of more hours I can feel more room around my feet. I couldn't say I was getting anymore control out of the boots compared to using the Alaskas. K&G was ok, the boot is starting to break in across the toes easier than the Ski March. My Alaskas didn't feel like they needed to break in. They were soft to begin with and just molded more to my feet with use and no trouble with my boney feet. So now Im at the point of just using the Alaskas exclusively and dump the Transnordic or keep fiddling with them and hope they continue to get better? How are your feet feeling?

[fisheater]

@Krummholz are you on 75 mm or NNN BC?

[Inspiredcapers]

Krummholz, my feet were fine the next day. Put a blister pad on the two spots with small blisters and went out for a couple hours of play time. It was damn nice not to have aching feet after a full day with ski boots on. I ordered a pair of Transnordic 75s as well to try out.

[Krummholz]

@Krummholz are you on 75 mm or NNN BC?

I ski 75mm exclusively, mostly on Sbound 98, some E99. Voile HD, 1 click on trails, 2 bushwhacking.

[dave52]

Thank you for sharing your findings @Krummholz and @Stephen, good info here!

As your charts show, the Transnordic BC's are longer, compared to the Alaska BC's I have. I'd say the Alaska are pretty true to size of my feet (EU 46 / US Men's 12), I have wider-ish feet. I was considering downsizing with the Transnordics but glad I didn't, even though they're a touch bigger than the Alaska's.

First impressions

I haven't had the chance to actually ski these yet, need to head north for snow. There seemed to be a lot of room in the front and back of foot, but once cinched up and walked around in for a while they feel snug.

On the outside of both of my feet I can feel what's likely the plastic cuff inside the the lining of the boot, this is what's giving the boot it's strength, but the inside liner fabric doesn't seem to be cushioning it well enough, IMO. After a long haul blistering is likely (with just socks on). The Alaska's on the other hand feel so damn comfy, I know that's subjective, but when multiple people claim this there must be some truth to it.

I'm really happy with the purchase though, I went all in on NNN BC and don't want to have multiple bindings/boot/ski combos, and this really seems like the BC answer to XCD (or it's best attempt). I live in Wisconsin too, we don't exactly have mountain access so it's a sensible fit for me.

It's funny with all these boots the strength is the weakness, e.g. strong plastic boot for DH control and turns, uncomfortable long distance; or soft comfortable boot, less control. The Transnordics seem to land somewhere in the middle of this spectrum, being good at both, not great. I think these boots will be able to take some torque that the Alaska's aren't up for, especially laying pressure towards the outside of the boot, could see parallel turns being possible, and they're stiff but still flex forward decently.

Hopefully get the chance to properly test them out soon. Enjoy the rest of your season!

[jalp]

On the outside of both of my feet I can feel what's likely the plastic cuff inside the the lining of the boot, this is what's giving the boot it's strength, but the inside liner fabric doesn't seem to be cushioning it well enough, IMO.

I had the same issue with my pair. It was an irritating tightness on the outside mid-foot in both boots. I did a little thermo-forming to fix the problem.

1. Put 4 or so layers of moleskin on the problem areas of foot, then whatever the usual sock preference is over that.
2. Stick a turkey sized cooking bag into the boot and fill it with boiling water. Let it sit in there for about 10-12 minutes.
3. While the boot is warming up on the inside, use a hair dryer on the outside to warm the problem spot up well. I'd recommend not using too much heat on the outside. I stayed below 175 degrees F.
4. Dump the water and removed the bag, put them on and lace them snug but not over tight. Stand in the boot fully weighted until cool, about 15 minutes.

This worked exceptionally well for me.

Another thing that I needed to do was to train the ankle creases so that they didn't fold inward and cause pinching at the ankle when flexed forward.

After that, I adjusted the volume by adding thin insoles under the stock ones to take up the extra room inside the boot. I found that trying to adjust volume with tighter lacing alone was causing hot spots on top of my foot.

I found that I prefer thicker socks with these boots as they tend to soak up the little imperfections better than thinner ones do.

Hope this helps

[lowangle al]

Good info on heat molding those boots jalp. I had the same problem with the outside of my foot on the left boot, right where the logo is printed. When looking down at the boot when they were on, I could see where the right boot had a convex shape in that area and the left one was almost flat. Luckily, I was able to reach the spot with a shoe stretcher and that fixed it.

[TheMusher]

Interesting to see the number of buyers having issues with the outward sidewall plastic beam. I've had major issues with this as well (on the 75s).

To be honest, I'm disappointed with the construction/production quality Fischer is bringing to the table here. There were notable differences between left and right boot, in which the right has an unpleasant and obviously unintended convex shape (ref. plastic beam) as described by @lowangle al.

Outright painful out of the box, but have been able to physically bend the plastic beam so it becomes more concave. May still have to resort to some of the creative molding techniques described above (thanks @jalp!)

At 240 euros, I guess you get what you pay for..

Still love the boot concept, so fingers crossed.