Alfa FREE A/P/S GTX XPLORE Boot Review 2022
Re: Alfa FREE A/P/S GTX XPLORE Boot Review 2022
FWIW, I haven't seen or tried on any recent Alpina boots but all I've seen in the past have been very wide and high volume, rather like Keen or Five Ten footwear; these don't fit my feet even slightly.
Of the new theoretical boots, the Fishers might fit but are leather (= freezing problems here in Oz), and I have no idea how Crispi fits, or what they're made from; they've never made it here. The Alfas appear to be totally synthetic, IMHO a good thing, plus I like the idea of the BOA closures, and I rented some Alfa boots for a few days decades ago in Norway and got on with them okay.
Any of these would almost certainly have to be mail ordered from another continent though...
Of the new theoretical boots, the Fishers might fit but are leather (= freezing problems here in Oz), and I have no idea how Crispi fits, or what they're made from; they've never made it here. The Alfas appear to be totally synthetic, IMHO a good thing, plus I like the idea of the BOA closures, and I rented some Alfa boots for a few days decades ago in Norway and got on with them okay.
Any of these would almost certainly have to be mail ordered from another continent though...
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Re: Alfa FREE A/P/S GTX XPLORE Boot Review 2022
Both the Fischer Transnordic, Alpina Pioneer and Crispi Svartisen are made from leather, but have membranes for water resistance and are insulated. I believe a proper rubber rand is important to protect the leather and avoid water ingress and cold feet. The Alfa Free has been criticized for not being warm due to snow gathering on the toe in one test I have read, so that doesn't sound like a solution either. The Alpina Pioneer is unknown for now.satanas wrote: ↑Wed Feb 16, 2022 8:15 amOf the new theoretical boots, the Fishers might fit but are leather (= freezing problems here in Oz), and I have no idea how Crispi fits, or what they're made from; they've never made it here. The Alfas appear to be totally synthetic, IMHO a good thing, plus I like the idea of the BOA closures, and I rented some Alfa boots for a few days decades ago in Norway and got on with them okay.
I did not get cold feet in my Alfa Skaget in -15°C with one pair of medium thick socks on a short tour, but I would use two pairs when it is that cold and they also feel better on. The women's version of Alfa Guard that I tried in a shop was much narrower and did not fit me, so that might also be an option for you if you have small enough feet (max size 42 on ladies boots).
Re: Alfa FREE A/P/S GTX XPLORE Boot Review 2022
Unfortunately, My feet are way too big to fit into size 42 boots; I'd need 46 or 47.
My worry isn't about cold weather conditions per se, as cold = dry snow, but rather warm, wet snow (and sometimes rain), which results in sodden boots which then freeze solid overnight. Neither plastic nor textile boots freeze solid, which saves a lot of misery the next day. Here dry = warm...
It's extremely rare to get to -15°C here; it might happen overnight once or twice a year; -5 to -10°C is more common overnight, but it doesn't always freeze. Typical daytime tempertures are more likely to be between -5 to +5°C, with 10-15+ likely in spring. If it stayed below -5°C all winter things would be much more pleasant.
My worry isn't about cold weather conditions per se, as cold = dry snow, but rather warm, wet snow (and sometimes rain), which results in sodden boots which then freeze solid overnight. Neither plastic nor textile boots freeze solid, which saves a lot of misery the next day. Here dry = warm...
It's extremely rare to get to -15°C here; it might happen overnight once or twice a year; -5 to -10°C is more common overnight, but it doesn't always freeze. Typical daytime tempertures are more likely to be between -5 to +5°C, with 10-15+ likely in spring. If it stayed below -5°C all winter things would be much more pleasant.
Re: Alfa FREE A/P/S GTX XPLORE Boot Review 2022
My feet are not as extreme as yours, but wide at the same spots. The Free is definitely narrower and wil flex on the wrong spot for your feet. I bought the Skaget and it works well. As it is leather it widenes up a bit. Still the lacing enables tightening for the downhill. The boots are bigger than usually. I usually wear 42 2/3 to 43 and the 42 Skaget is by far long enough for me!
Probably Vista is the same, but not tested by me.
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Re: Alfa FREE A/P/S GTX XPLORE Boot Review 2022
Freaking exciting isn't it?telerat wrote: ↑Wed Feb 16, 2022 7:31 amWith possibly three and possibly four high and supportive boots it looks promising for Xplore next year:
Alfa Free: https://www.alfaoutdoor.com/products/fr ... tx-m-black
Fischer Transnordic: https://www.telemarktalk.com/viewtopic. ... 802#p48543
Alpina Pioneer: https://www.telemarktalk.com/viewtopic. ... 497#p48616
Crispi is rumored to on board, and Svartisen is a nnn-bc boot that could be adapted to Xplore: https://www.crispi.it/en/shop-online/pr ... 246--/9900
I am also curious on how tall and stiff a boot the Xplore binding/system can accept.
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Re: Alfa FREE A/P/S GTX XPLORE Boot Review 2022
Ni review J. 42 sound small for you? Is the sizing right or would have you preferred the 43?
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Re: Alfa FREE A/P/S GTX XPLORE Boot Review 2022
@bgregoire as described in this thread:
https://www.telemarktalk.com/viewtopic. ... 642#p47354
I had to size up for Alpina Alaska compared to Alfa; My Alfa Skaget is size 41, while when testing Alaska (XP/BC/75mm) I had to use 42 and that even felt slightly tighter.
https://www.telemarktalk.com/viewtopic. ... 642#p47354
I had to size up for Alpina Alaska compared to Alfa; My Alfa Skaget is size 41, while when testing Alaska (XP/BC/75mm) I had to use 42 and that even felt slightly tighter.
Re: Alfa FREE A/P/S GTX XPLORE Boot Review 2022
@ telerat: Are you talking about width/volume or length?
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Re: Alfa FREE A/P/S GTX XPLORE Boot Review 2022
Thanks! I wear size 10.5 US / 27.5 Mondo.
Alaska BC 42: Super tight, but perfect, the way I like it for downhill
Alaska BC 43: Too big, problematic, heel lift, even with think socks
Alaska 75 42: Too small
Alaska 75 43: Perfect!
Alaska 75 44: Too big, problematic
Guard 43: Quite big, but near perfect with thick socks
Alaska XP 43: Perfect! Super comfy with thin socks, and super comfy with thick ones
Alaska XP 42: I did NOT try them, but my guess is that they would be perfect too, the laces allow a wide range
Free 42: Perfect with thin socks, and perfect with thick ones, thanks to the dynamic BOA fit range! (43 would have been WAY too big. )
I was expecting the Free 42 to be quite tight. And for downhill, this is what I want. But no, they are not tight, they feel quite big for a size 42! But the BOA thing seems to accomodate a wider range of feet, and the AWESOME lacing system of the Alaska XP seems to allow exactly the same thing too. Something I didn't find on any other boots. (When I say big, I mean both length and width.) Important to note on Alfa's FREE page:
The fit in the shoes is spacious so that you have room for thick socks and maintain good circulation. If you are unsure about the size, we recommend you choose the smaller size.
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Re: Alfa FREE A/P/S GTX XPLORE Boot Review 2022
Hi Johnny. How would you describe the width of your feet? Narrow, mid, wide like EE or EEE? It sounds like you prefer a performance fit because a 10.5 should be Mondo 28/28.5 or 44 Euro in most boots according to charts other than ALFA's.Johnny wrote: ↑Thu Feb 17, 2022 8:52 am
Thanks! I wear size 10.5 US / 27.5 Mondo.
Guard 43: Quite big, but near perfect with thick socks
Free 42: Perfect with thin socks, and perfect with thick ones, thanks to the dynamic BOA fit range! (43 would have been WAY too big. )
I was expecting the Free 42 to be quite tight. And for downhill, this is what I want. But no, they are not tight, they feel quite big for a size 42! But the BOA thing seems to accomodate a wider range of feet, and the AWESOME lacing system of the Alaska XP seems to allow exactly the same thing too. Something I didn't find on any other boots. (When I say big, I mean both length and width.)
I'm trying to figure out which size to order of the ALFA Vista's and although concensus seems to indicate they fit large/wide, I'm still unconvinced that I can size down. I'm paranoid but I also have never found a shoe to be TOO wide, even in wide width models. I wear an 10.5/11 wide width shoe even thought my feet only measure out to 26.5/27. My plastic boot shells are Mondo 28.5 and my Salomon skate boots are 45.3 and very comfortable. I always size up for width.
I would never order a 43, (I can't imagine it fitting), so I'm trying to choose between 44/45. I guess I will have to order both and ship one back (hopefully one fits!).