Waxless on Ski Resort Trails?

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Re: Waxless on Ski Resort Trails?

Post by lowangle al » Fri Feb 11, 2022 11:41 am

Harry M wrote:
Fri Feb 11, 2022 9:25 am
XC skis on downhill slopes?
You've got much bigger problems with which to worry than the negligible difference on the downhill between waxable and waxless skis. Like control.
It's not only the skis but the boots make a difference. With a more xcD focused boot it would be safer than with a whimpy xc boot. Skill level also makes a big difference, as well as where you want to ski at the resort. Skiing the beginners slope may be OK but not anything more. The important thing with that set up is being able to find soft surface conditions. The skis don't respond to tip pressure on hard snow and don't turn easily on their own, they need soft snow to get the ski to arc to turn.

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Re: Waxless on Ski Resort Trails?

Post by neekovt » Fri Feb 11, 2022 11:53 am

I have been a fiend for this kind of stuff lately. I am mainly a snowboarder and used to alpine ski, but lightweight gear adds a nice balance challenge.

I got some Sbound 98 and beefy transnordic boots and have been absolutely loving resort runs as a way to tune up my downhill skills. This set up feels so versatile. Black diamonds are no problem but avoid anything too narrow!



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Re: Waxless on Ski Resort Trails?

Post by lowangle al » Fri Feb 11, 2022 11:58 am

neekovt wrote:
Fri Feb 11, 2022 11:53 am
I have been a fiend for this kind of stuff lately. I am mainly a snowboarder and used to alpine ski, but lightweight gear adds a nice balance challenge.

I got some Sbound 98 and beefy transnordic boots and have been absolutely loving resort runs as a way to tune up my downhill skills. This set up feels so versatile. Black diamonds are no problem but avoid anything too narrow!
This is much more appropriate for a light set up for the resort.



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Re: Waxless on Ski Resort Trails?

Post by randoskier » Fri Feb 11, 2022 12:30 pm

fisheater wrote:
Fri Feb 11, 2022 10:44 am
I’ve skied both S-112 and FT 62 at the ski hill. Boots started as T4, but switched to Ski March because they are more comfortable. Personally I really dislike scales going downhill, but then I’m not to fond of that vibration on flats either. I know the air channel core of the S-112 lacked torsional rigidity, I turned them on black diamond hard surfaces, but that core did not inspire confidence. I believe the Eon has a similar core. I have a feeling the Panorama 62 has an upgraded core. The FT has a core that can be relied upon, however it is soft and light and gets kicked around in any kind of heavy snow or crud.
So you can ski at the resort, if you are able to do it. Choose your slopes and days wisely.
I think the Panorama 62 and the Eon are the same ski with a different top-sheets , I don't think K2 is investing much in Nordic backcountry-

Eon core: "Wood multicore is laminated together to enhance camber, strength and liveliness; it's shaped to fit the ski profile, minimizing the use of glue in production"

Panorama core: Multicore (Wood)

I just retired my Eons, a nice ski, ineffective scales for climbing. Hello Fischer.



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Re: Waxless on Ski Resort Trails?

Post by Ro-Bear » Wed Apr 06, 2022 7:05 pm

Went out for the first on my Fischer Crown 99s BCX skis to the resort and it was icy as hell. Finally developed a wide stance quasi-Tele turn technique on the easy Blues after numerous humbling falls etc. the most fun was fielding questions from people on the lift about my skinny skis!



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Re: Waxless on Ski Resort Trails?

Post by lowangle al » Wed Apr 06, 2022 9:25 pm

Ro-Bear wrote:
Wed Apr 06, 2022 7:05 pm
Went out for the first on my Fischer Crown 99s BCX skis to the resort and it was icy as hell. Finally developed a wide stance quasi-Tele turn technique on the easy Blues after numerous humbling falls etc. the most fun was fielding questions from people on the lift about my skinny skis!
Hey, it's good to hear that someone is using the "Quasimodo Turn". I invented that turn back in 2012. Wide open stance and only lead with your downhill ski by a half to full boot length. Stay centered and keep your hands out front. Hunch to the right and you turn left and vice versa.

It's a fun turn and I think a good way to learn. For best results flex your ankles and drive your knees.



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