Ski lenght importance... Traverse 78 vs Rossignol BC 80

[Nitram Tocrut]

Fischer always recommends to go shorter. Always. And then the skis, especially the Offtrack Crown skis, ski slow, especially if you know how to XC ski. If you are a beginner then you'll be good. If you have experience you'll want the longer ski. Unless you want to only climb up and then ski down things.

I'm 160 and the 189 Traverse is too slow for me.

Do they not have the 196 length in stock? He is trying to sell you what he has?

They didn't have the 196 no, but he could've easily sold me the E88s or the S98, for which he had 199s. He is simply convinced that these are the right skis for me.... any ways, I always open track in rough snow and want to go down small hills in the woods so smaller skis will likely be more controllable. I still have my Rossignols EVO 200mm which I can use to go faster or in machined tracks... I'm pretty advanced though and still believe it's a risk I find them too slow, but will try them anyways! Can't wait for snow to fall Might also try them downhill!

I am really curious to hear about your experience. I am 6,1 as well but a bit heavier and I am really surprised that they suggested you to get the 186. Or as LilCliffy said, they have to be really stiff to still a wax pocket considering your weight. I am curious to know where you found them. I am also curious to know where you ski… in the Laurentians? When you say downhill, do you mean in a resort. To get back to ski length, all my skis under 196 are pretty slow for XC and I gotta to have some fun with turns to compensate for their XC deficiency. Anyway, you already bought the skis so whatever I say it’s too late anyway

[agregoire]

So I finally got an answer from Fischer as well... it's likely I would've preferred the 196cm... but since they are completely out of stock in my entire area, and online with possible QC delivery, I'm sure I'll still be happy to have them!
Will let you know... we had our first traces this morning, can't wait!!!
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Hello,

Thanks again for reaching out and for your interest in Fischer Skis.

Honestly, while you could choose either size, the 196 cm ski would yield a much better combination of climbing and gliding characteristics. It's what I'd recommend unless you care very little about glide.

Please let me know if you need anything else.

Sincerely,

Customer Service
Fischer Skis US, LLC

[Pontiac787]

I'm struggling with a similar decision on the T78s. I'm about 165 lbs. without boots. Trying to decide between 176s and 186s. I'm finding some online information to be inconsistent. I found one site that shows the weight range for the 176 to be 143lbs to 176lbs. and the 186s to be 154 lbs. to 198lbs. While the Fischer chart shows the 179 length to be from 143 to 196 lbs and the 189s to be from 175 to 231. Fischer recommends the 176s but from what I've read here I should go with the 186s. I'm leaning toward the 186s. Is there any reason I shouldn't?

[Pontiac787]

I think I solved the mystery. The ratings for the 176/186 length are what are actually marked on the skis. Looks like Fischer didn’t bother to update their catalog. I’ve heard the 2022 T78s, and probably others, are made by Atomic due to a fire at the Fischer plant.

[lilcliffy]

I think I solved the mystery. The ratings for the 176/186 length are what are actually marked on the skis. Looks like Fischer didn’t bother to update their catalog. I’ve heard the 2022 T78s, and probably others, are made by Atomic due to a fire at the Fischer plant.

Sorry- I still don't understand-
What is Fischer's current length recommendation for the 78- you weigh 165lbs?

[Pontiac787]

176cm is from 143 lbs to 176 lbs and the 186s are from 154 lbs to 198 lbs.

[John Dee]

I’ve heard the 2022 T78s, and probably others, are made by Atomic due to a fire at the Fischer plant.

That's quite a rumor.

[TrailHeadWorthy]

So what are the differences between the Transverse 78 and the Ross BC 80?

Thoughts on either one?

[lilcliffy]

Now- I don't know whether the current T78 is different from the recent model I have-

compared to our T78:

- T78 is more cambered
- T78 is stiffer
- T78 has a more raised tip
- T78 has Fischer's Offtrack Crown insert, with sintered tip and tail
- T78 has a kicker skin insert
- T78 comes in longer length (I think?)
- BC80 has low-profile (modern Alpinish) tip, with notch for racing style skin
- BC80 has extruded base with ground scale pattern

I forgot to examine the rocker on the BC80- but, if I remember from the shop, the rocker was similar?

[randoskier]

Good morning all! Best season is coming soon
I've been reading a lot of posts here and highly appreciate everyone's input. However I can't seem to find an answer to my current dilemna: I want to purchase a new pair of skis to continue exploring the frozen river and its islands, golf courses and forests around my area, but also be able to climb up mountains and ski them down. I'm an experienced downhill telemarker (with T4 Scarpas and kongur skis), and Cross-Country Skier (been exploring my area with Rossignol EVOs).

I am 6'1 and about 210 lbs all dressed up and ready to go with a small backpack. I am hesitating between the new Traverse 78 and the new Rossignol BC 80. Been looking around for a few months already and couldn't find them anywhere, until I got my hands on a Traverse 78... but only available in 186cm... The ski shop tells me that the "196cm" is for ­>220lbs and the 186cm is for 180-220lbs but I can't seem to find an actual chart that says that anywhere on the web... it rather says 70-90Kgs for the 186m which means the 196 may be a better size for me, but it's unavailable...

So my question is: Should I better get a longer ski in a "cheaper" BC80, or take a "shorter" ski in a better overall ski "T78"... or should I rather take a different ski altogether? Would love to hear your comments!

Thanks,
Antoine

https://fischersports.com/media/pdf/da/ ... -Final.pdf
The Fischer Nordic size chart for this year's models

Maybe jump on the Traverse 78 in 186, hard to find this year!