Asnes Ingstad users question

[Stephen]

I would be interested to know what the shop quotes to repair the bases.
Do the serial numbers on the skis match? That would be interesting if they do.
Glad you are feeling ok about the skis.

Also, you may want to try the race skins before you buy the nylon.
I bought a set of mohair and a set of nylon X-Skins and the nylon climb great, but have almost no glide. They are no fun when you expect the ski might glide some, but does not — they feel “dead” — like snow shoes!
If there is any mix of up and down, they may have more drag than you want.
If they are only for going up steeps, with no flats or downs, then they would be a good choice.
For me, the mohair works fine for climbing.
But also, if you ski in snow with lots of moisture, near or above freezing, the nylon might be better because the don’t absorb water as much as mohair.

[KnoxPolk]

@Stephen The serial numbers on both skis are the same which is weird also About the skins I want to buy mohair 40mm race skins(pink one) and 58mm nylon for those really step ascents as with wider ski I can know challenge more demanding and steeper terrain. I will let you know once I received replies form ski services as I am not sure if they will able to restore it.

[Woodserson]

Since the "pattern" here is chewed out of the base, it's negative, which means it won't drag much if you leave it. So it's not all bad. You can fill them with PTex as mentioned by previous posters, you can also take a cold-temperature glide wax, like TOKO BLUE, and fill them with that and then smooth out with a plastic scraper. It won't be perfect, but it would be "good enough" and you won't notice too much. I do this on some of my scaled skis that have too many scales and it works well. The colder the glide wax, the harder it is. Don't use warm weather wax-- use cold: 10degF/-12degC or below. Cheaper and easier than Ptex/Shop but not as good. Also, reversible.

[Woodserson]

@Stephen The serial numbers on both skis are the same which is weird also About the skins I want to buy mohair 40mm race skins(pink one) and 58mm nylon for those really step ascents as with wider ski I can know challenge more demanding and steeper terrain. I will let you know once I received replies form ski services as I am not sure if they will able to restore it.

The matching serial numbers are a good sign. It probably means the graphics got screwed up at the factory, but the cores are matched to each other, cut from the same piece of wood. So it's a matching pair.

I WONDER if this is Asnes/Factory's way to marking blemished/Second skis!!! They get recycled and not destroyed (as many other ski factories/companies do) someone makes a little money, and someone gets cheap skis! This may very well be the standard operating practice. NOT BAD. I'll take it.

(I once saw dozens of skis get thrown in a dumpster, with all their edges cut by a machine that specifically ruins the ski so they won't enter the secondary market).

I say you did good on this purchase. Where did you find these? Maybe there are more!

[Musk Ox]

@Stephen The serial numbers on both skis are the same which is weird also About the skins I want to buy mohair 40mm race skins(pink one) and 58mm nylon for those really step ascents as with wider ski I can know challenge more demanding and steeper terrain. I will let you know once I received replies form ski services as I am not sure if they will able to restore it.

The matching serial numbers are a good sign. It probably means the graphics got screwed up at the factory, but the cores are matched to each other, cut from the same piece of wood. So it's a matching pair.

I WONDER if this is Asnes/Factory's way to marking blemished/Second skis!!! They get recycled and not destroyed (as many other ski factories/companies do) someone makes a little money, and someone gets cheap skis! This may very well be the standard operating practice. NOT BAD. I'll take it.

(I once saw dozens of skis get thrown in a dumpster, with all their edges cut by a machine that specifically ruins the ski so they won't enter the secondary market).

I say you did good on this purchase. Where did you find these? Maybe there are more!

I saw some pretty cheap 'B grade' Åsnes skis on a price comparison site last week. I think the link was to Varuste? Was this where they were from, @KnoxPolk? (Actually I thiiiink it was Ingstads?)

Edit: going by what Wooderson says I'd be kind of inclined to keep them!

EDIT: No, found them, it was these https://varuste.net/p109132/åsnes-breid ... ss-b-grade

[CwmRaider]

Since the "pattern" here is chewed out of the base, it's negative, which means it won't drag much if you leave it. So it's not all bad. You can fill them with PTex as mentioned by previous posters, you can also take a cold-temperature glide wax, like TOKO BLUE, and fill them with that and then smooth out with a plastic scraper. It won't be perfect, but it would be "good enough" and you won't notice too much. I do this on some of my scaled skis that have too many scales and it works well. The colder the glide wax, the harder it is. Don't use warm weather wax-- use cold: 10degF/-12degC or below. Cheaper and easier than Ptex/Shop but not as good. Also, reversible.

Kick wax doesn't adhere well to glide wax in my experience, it may be passable for traction but if you stick skins on the mixture it will pull the kick wax right off. Speaking from experience...
I'd vote for a test as is, and if unsatisfied, a PTex filling.

[riel]

Kick wax doesn't adhere well to glide wax in my experience, it may be passable for traction but if you stick skins on the mixture it will pull the kick wax right off. Speaking from experience...
I'd vote for a test as is, and if unsatisfied, a PTex filling.

Agreed. Chances are these negative scales will work passably much of the time, and 45mm wide mohair skins should do the trick in conditions where most fishscales (including the pattern intended to be on the waxless model) don't work great.

I got Ingstad skis last season, and put maybe 100 miles on them. They turn well for cross country skis thanks to the rocker, and handle much more predictably than softer skis in many snow conditions.

If you end up being unhappy with the negative fishscales, it should costs about $15 to fill them in with clear ptex, a lighter, and a scraper. I filled in the fishscales on some $30 Sondre skis this summer, and it was a lot easier and forgiving than it looks.

One reason is that the part of the ski where the kick wax will go doesn't need to be perfect, because it won't be touching the snow a lot of the time, and when it odes you want it to grip. Plus it's pretty easy to get the imperfections small enough that you can just even them out with kick wax.

If, after trying the fishscales, you end up really not liking their performance, feel free to ask me questions on how I filled in my fishscales. I probably forgot to describe something in the post below

http://telemarktalk.com/viewtopic.php?f ... b320690170

[Åsnes1922]

@Stephen The serial numbers on both skis are the same which is weird also About the skins I want to buy mohair 40mm race skins(pink one) and 58mm nylon for those really step ascents as with wider ski I can know challenge more demanding and steeper terrain. I will let you know once I received replies form ski services as I am not sure if they will able to restore it.

The matching serial numbers are a good sign. It probably means the graphics got screwed up at the factory, but the cores are matched to each other, cut from the same piece of wood. So it's a matching pair.

I WONDER if this is Asnes/Factory's way to marking blemished/Second skis!!! They get recycled and not destroyed (as many other ski factories/companies do) someone makes a little money, and someone gets cheap skis! This may very well be the standard operating practice. NOT BAD. I'll take it.

(I once saw dozens of skis get thrown in a dumpster, with all their edges cut by a machine that specifically ruins the ski so they won't enter the secondary market).

I say you did good on this purchase. Where did you find these? Maybe there are more!

Hi there guys.

We noticed this thread and saw the pictures. This waxless pattern is not something coming from our factories. We do not know how that cut-out pattern ended up on one of our skis, but it is important for us to say that we only produce waxless skis with our own waxless pattern.

These skis seem to be manually altered, and it is obvious to us that this pattern is done by hand or with some kind of power tool - but not by any of our machines or at our factory.

Every now and then, we see cases like this. But if you're not happy with it, we would suggest talking to the shop where these skis were bought. Basically, this ski has been altered - so it won't be covered by any of our guarantees or warranty either.

[KnoxPolk]

@Stephen I received replies from ski services, only one service told me that they can fill the pattern with ptex which is the same thing that @riel did, all others told me they can't fix it or work with it.


@Musk Ox I bought them from online market called OLX similar to carigslist or ebay. The guy who was selling me the skies had a couple of different models from Asnes all of them have this patterns as mine, and they also stated as new, I am attaching some photos from auctions just to show you if you are interested.

@Woodserson @riel I think at first I will try them when the winter comes and see how they work with the pattern if I won't be satisfied I will try at first to fill them with cold wax and next step will be ptex if the wax won't work. If I decide to fill the pattern with clear ptex, I will take a closer look at Riel thread to do it exactly the same.

Also, one guy from ski services told me to do not use kick wax or klayster at backcountry or together with skins. He told me that kick wax or klayster would attach a lot of dirt, tree needles etc., and it can also damage the glue side of the skins. Do you have any experience of using both kick wax and skins? I am wondering also if I should use glide wax or grip wax to the ski, I already order a wax iron

[KnoxPolk]

Hello @Åsnes1922 thanks for the reply, I totally understand that they won't cover for any warranty or guarantee and I know that this pattern wasn't made in your factory it was made by someone private. I just wanted to ask this question because I wasn't sure if this will have negative impact of the ski behavior, but it was my decisions to buy them from online market and after received all the forum replies I am very, very happy and excited to finally own a pair of Åsnes ski, can't wait for the winter I have only one remaining question, I have noticed that these skies have a sticker which stated that they are w B-Grade model, could you explain what does it mean?