Asnes Ski Choice for Pulk Expeditions

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Re: Asnes Ski Choice for Pulk Expeditions

Post by Crayefish » Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:02 am

bgregoire wrote:
Sun Feb 28, 2021 7:55 pm
Hey Craye, nice to read of your adventures. I've done something similar I while ago already. Awesome stuff. We did ski through Sarek on that trip. Would be happy to talk gear choice and what not if ever you are working on a sequel!
https://living-laponia.tumblr.com/

I have to say, I had a hard time finding clean camp fuel (we call if Naphta gas in Canada). Turns out you have to know where to look. They sell that stuff in tha GAS STATION! We got several 4L plastics jugs of the stuff for our trip.
Ah cool! Looks like some great pictures there. I'll have a proper look through all of them this week. I'm definitely planning a longer sequal next Feb in Sarek... have to finish what I started! :) So would like to talk gear choice indeed. Might send you a PM once I've gone through your pics on the link you sent.

Haha yeah, I tried them too! Had some lined up, but couldn't make it to the shop on time, so had to try others. I went to 4 camping shops and 3 petrol stations, and still only kerosene or alcohol... in retrospect I should have just bought auto petrol as I always used to, but again; it was great learning experience dealing with gelled fuel that was so hard to light. Better to learn how to deal with it now, in case I ever have to resort to it again.

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Re: Asnes Ski Choice for Pulk Expeditions

Post by CwmRaider » Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:43 am

Hi,
Nice writeup
The stuff which I use (and many others in scandinavia as well) for my stove is called Alkylatbensin 4T in Norway and Sweden. Apparently it is the same as the coleman fuel but less than half the price (as it is not catering for tourists specifically). It is much cleaner than normal petrol. Probably healthier for your cooking than normal fuel.

The 2T variant is mixed with oil for 2 stroke engines, don't use that.
Have seen it in many gas stations and do it yourself stores.

I like alcohol stoves (Trangia :D) but for producing drinking water from snow they are not really suitable. Especially not at cold temperatures.

Oh and for longer trips if your life depends on it (greenland or iceland crossing) I recommend you take a spare NNN-BC binding with a pozidrive Pz3 screwdriver. It weighs almost nothing and is a good life insurance.



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Re: Asnes Ski Choice for Pulk Expeditions

Post by bgregoire » Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:19 am

Roelant wrote:
Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:43 am
Hi,
Nice writeup
The stuff which I use (and many others in scandinavia as well) for my stove is called Alkylatbensin 4T in Norway and Sweden. Apparently it is the same as the coleman fuel but less than half the price (as it is not catering for tourists specifically). It is much cleaner than normal petrol. Probably healthier for your cooking than normal fuel.

The 2T variant is mixed with oil for 2 stroke engines, don't use that.
Have seen it in many gas stations and do it yourself stores.

I like alcohol stoves (Trangia :D) but for producing drinking water from snow they are not really suitable. Especially not at cold temperatures.

Oh and for longer trips if your life depends on it (greenland or iceland crossing) I recommend you take a spare NNN-BC binding with a pozidrive Pz3 screwdriver. It weighs almost nothing and is a good life insurance.
@Crayefish, Roelant is right, this is the stuff you need. Don't do Kerosene of Automobile gas, that sounds highly dangerous given you will be cooking (and breathing it) in a tent.

Also agree with the extra NNN-BC binding. On that trip of mine, I had one extra binding, and it was not enough, I should of had a pair!

You're write ups are great fun. I never bothered writing up the stories we had. You will fin more of our pictures here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/123961443@N03/sets/
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Re: Asnes Ski Choice for Pulk Expeditions

Post by Crayefish » Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:22 am

Roelant wrote:
Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:43 am
Hi,
Nice writeup
The stuff which I use (and many others in scandinavia as well) for my stove is called Alkylatbensin 4T in Norway and Sweden. Apparently it is the same as the coleman fuel but less than half the price (as it is not catering for tourists specifically).

Oh and for longer trips if your life depends on it (greenland or iceland crossing) I recommend you take a spare NNN-BC binding with a pozidrive Pz3 screwdriver. It weighs almost nothing and is a good life insurance.
Thanks the the tip! I tried looking up names while there but failed on that front. I'll save the name for next time.

I was thinking along those lines actually, given that they are so light. I guess they're not handed, so just one required? Does one need to use inserts (quiver killer or such) to be able swap out a BC binding?

Edit: @bgregoire I used petrol for many many years, without issue (though admit it probably isn't the best for your health when porch cooking), but got it in my head this trip to switch to something more suitable/designed. Kerosene is definitely off my list for that now! :lol:



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Re: Asnes Ski Choice for Pulk Expeditions

Post by Smitty » Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:14 pm

Great write up @Crayefish, I look forward to reading future chapters! Particularly your humour, as well as sharing the choices you would have made differently. Sharing your learnings provides a great resource to others as they put together kit / plan journeys themselves. Cheers.

As far as the spare binding, I would omit inserts. As long as you mount your original bindings with an adhesive that allows you to break the screws free in the field (ie use high quality wood glue as opposed to epoxy) you should have no issues re-using the original holes to mount the spare binding.

And you are correct, there is no dedicated left/right with NNN-BC, so you could get away with a single spare binding if you choose.



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Re: Asnes Ski Choice for Pulk Expeditions

Post by Crayefish » Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:54 pm

Smitty wrote:
Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:14 pm
Great write up @Crayefish, I look forward to reading future chapters! Particularly your humour, as well as sharing the choices you would have made differently. Sharing your learnings provides a great resource to others as they put together kit / plan journeys themselves. Cheers.

As far as the spare binding, I would omit inserts. As long as you mount your original bindings with an adhesive that allows you to break the screws free in the field (ie use high quality wood glue as opposed to epoxy) you should have no issues re-using the original holes to mount the spare binding.
Thanks for your kind words Smitty. As what I am doing is really rather tame compared to pros, I have to make up for it by trying to make it a more enjoyable story to read :)

Is wood glue or epoxy the standard? Would probably go to a major shop Oslo to get the boots/skis/bindings as a package and have them mount them.



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Re: Asnes Ski Choice for Pulk Expeditions

Post by Ullr » Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:10 pm

Crayefish wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:54 pm
Is wood glue or epoxy the standard? Would probably go to a major shop Oslo to get the boots/skis/bindings as a package and have them mount them.
Use PU-based wood glue like this: https://www.casco.eu/no/casco-produkter-1/?pc=132&p=967



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Re: Asnes Ski Choice for Pulk Expeditions

Post by Homer » Sun Aug 15, 2021 12:48 pm

lilcliffy wrote:
Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:13 am
I have asked Asnes directly for clarification on the Amundsen models-
- the Amundsen Fram is indeed a different model than the Amundsen BC- and at one time was offered in both waxable and then waxless versions. The waxable Amundsen Fram was discontinued.
FYI, they are still listed on the Norwegian website, and widely available in Norway on major retailers (XXL.no)
I should know as I just received mine last Saturday :lol:



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