breathable shell jacket? is there one that lets sweat out but keeps you dry

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Re: breathable shell jacket? is there one that lets sweat out but keeps you dry

Post by lilcliffy » Thu Feb 18, 2021 7:48 pm

This jacket: https://www.varusteleka.com/en/product/ ... cket/59958
Very cool.
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Re: breathable shell jacket? is there one that lets sweat out but keeps you dry

Post by lowangle al » Thu Feb 18, 2021 8:47 pm

Nice looking waffles and shell Rickart. Is it cotton?



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Re: breathable shell jacket? is there one that lets sweat out but keeps you dry

Post by Eärendil » Fri Feb 19, 2021 2:16 am

lowangle al wrote:
Thu Feb 18, 2021 8:47 pm
Nice looking waffles and shell Rickart. Is it cotton?
Yes. 100% cotton. Works best in colder conditions like below 15F. In warmer temperature, it gets a little bit too hot.

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Re: breathable shell jacket? is there one that lets sweat out but keeps you dry

Post by Eärendil » Fri Feb 19, 2021 2:21 am

lilcliffy wrote:
Thu Feb 18, 2021 7:48 pm
This jacket: https://www.varusteleka.com/en/product/ ... cket/59958
Very cool.
Now on list to Santa.
Woolshell does seem like a smart design in cold weather. It would be interesting to know how much the fabric brakes wind compared to other solutions. The fact that this jacket has pit zips seems to imply rather high wind resistance and need to ventilate extra.

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Re: breathable shell jacket? is there one that lets sweat out but keeps you dry

Post by bauerb » Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:32 am

in days like today, when its snowing but not cold( 17F), I'm thinking Tyvek. you can get 30 of them for $200. the lab coat length would also be good for snowboarders...I seem them wearing those diaper looking things because they sit down so much...




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Re: breathable shell jacket? is there one that lets sweat out but keeps you dry

Post by treehugger » Fri Feb 19, 2021 1:52 pm

UPski231 wrote:
Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:41 pm
I have been using the Black Diamond First Light Hybrid Hoody and have been impressed during this cold spell. Seems to ditch the heat well while the shell blocks the wind and has good insulation.
This has insulation? Description sounds like just a shell. Curious how well "active shells" function, that trade off protection for being more breathable? Marketed towards all the new AT customers I would guess. I have Rab kinetic pants that are a great material that are maybe in same category. The matching jacket might be nice but I only wear a shell for extreme weather protection (when xc touring) and in which case I prefer to stay with Gortex pro. I keep it in my pack and have been thankful many times. I like the really light (14oz) ones marketed towards mountaineering and climbing. I also wear it daily at the resort were it provides amazing protection in wind or a storm without condensation or moisture build up. Which is not to say it is suitable for XC level activity.
lilcliffy wrote:
Thu Feb 18, 2021 7:46 pm

Unless I am standing around in a downpour- or standing out exposed to a cold wind- I keep my shell in my pack.

" when you need a waterproof or windproof jacket- man do you need one.
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Re: breathable shell jacket? is there one that lets sweat out but keeps you dry

Post by bgregoire » Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:30 pm

Eärendil wrote:
Fri Feb 19, 2021 2:21 am
lilcliffy wrote:
Thu Feb 18, 2021 7:48 pm
This jacket: https://www.varusteleka.com/en/product/ ... cket/59958
Very cool.
Now on list to Santa.
Woolshell does seem like a smart design in cold weather. It would be interesting to know how much the fabric brakes wind compared to other solutions. The fact that this jacket has pit zips seems to imply rather high wind resistance and need to ventilate extra.

//Rickard//
I tried an Aclima Woolshell pant as an outer shell several years ago. Not the best for wind protection. Its basically a very soft, light "softshell" made with wool.

That other eastearn european product mentionned above looks like something else, but still, I dont want me outer shell to be insulative. I want to layer as needed. I'm sticking with my Fjallraven Keb (G-1000 cotton/poly and softshell panels). With it, there is no need for an extra shell in my pack, just an extra insulative layer.
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Post by bauerb » Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:36 pm

today I skinned uphill. it was 20F so I wore light smart wool and an EMS Techwick shirt over it. I don't know what the "tech" or the "wick" is supposed to do, but I was soaked in sweat at the top...but I was not cold thanks to the wool.

I can say that I bought some Dynafit stretchy pants 2 weeks ago. I wear them on uphill days in all temps. they are great. I only change the base layer depending on whether its cold or not.



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Re: breathable shell jacket? is there one that lets sweat out but keeps you dry

Post by bgregoire » Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:54 pm

lilcliffy wrote:
Thu Feb 18, 2021 7:48 pm
This jacket: https://www.varusteleka.com/en/product/ ... cket/59958
Very cool.
Now on list to Santa.
Here's some commentts about it on some bushcraft site:
https://bushcraftusa.com/forum/threads/ ... et.235441/

"It has very little insulation properties though I found as it’s not a thick material and it lets wind through quite easily so you’ll definitely need an insulation layer underneath in cold weather and a wind proof layer over top if there’s any real windchill factor."

If that comment is true, I wonder why wear it?
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Re: breathable shell jacket? is there one that lets sweat out but keeps you dry

Post by Leo Tasker » Sat Feb 20, 2021 1:37 am

bgregoire wrote:
Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:54 pm

Here's some commentts about it on some bushcraft site:
https://bushcraftusa.com/forum/threads/ ... et.235441/

"It has very little insulation properties though I found as it’s not a thick material and it lets wind through quite easily so you’ll definitely need an insulation layer underneath in cold weather and a wind proof layer over top if there’s any real windchill factor."

If that comment is true, I wonder why wear it?
I think the Varusteleka stuff is mainly aimed at military/hunting/bushcraft users - a wool frieze jacket is going to be quiet when moving and spark/flame resistant for sitting around a fire. I looked at that exact jacket when I visited Helsinki and went to their shop. It's a nice piece of kit for sure, but quite heavy - I'd also worry about having it as my only outer layer on a trip where wet snow and not being able to dry it easily are a possibility. They do make very nice stuff though, I have their wool flannel shirt which is great for layering in cold weather and as an outer for spring skiing in good weather!



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