Will NNNBC handle this?

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Re: Will NNNBC handle this?

Post by fisheater » Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:12 pm

I agree with everything Woods had to say. Although I’m not a big fan of my Fischer S-112, it will do what you are asking for. So if you can find a S-112 or S-98 used add them to the list. The S-112 will shuffle along, it will climb, and it is nice in soft snow going downhill.

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Re: Will NNNBC handle this?

Post by hoots » Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:54 pm

Woodsersin I was not aware of that sizing oddity, thank you for bringing it up.

I can still get away with small bc binding on some of these wider skis?

Will definitely want something with scales as I have no interest in dealing with skins



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Re: Will NNNBC handle this?

Post by lilcliffy » Thu Oct 22, 2020 6:51 pm

https://www.gearx.com/madshus-epoch-68-bc-ski-f16

https://www.gearx.com/madshus-panorama-m62-intelligrip

https://www.gearx.com/madshus-annum-78-bc-ski-f16

https://www.akers-ski.com/product/17K798.html

I would strongly consider the Eon/Panorama 62
The Epoch and the Annum are single cambered and round flexing.
If you don't care about Xc performance- then the Epoch/Annum- the Annum if you weigh more than a hobbit.
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Re: Will NNNBC handle this?

Post by fisheater » Thu Oct 22, 2020 7:27 pm

That is a nice starter package from Akers, however I would check into the possibility of getting manual NNN-BC bindings as opposed to the auto bindings in the package



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Re: Will NNNBC handle this?

Post by hoots » Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:07 pm

lilcliffy wrote:
Thu Oct 22, 2020 6:51 pm
If you don't care about Xc performance- then the Epoch/Annum- the Annum if you weigh more than a hobbit.
I'm not sure what you mean by caring about xc performance. I will mostly be walking in the skis and only occasionally doing turns.



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Re: Will NNNBC handle this?

Post by lilcliffy » Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:45 am

The Epoch/Annum have a lot of sidecut, are single-cambered, and have a soft, smooth, round flex. They are totally dead when XC skiing on consolidated snow. The Annum is actually quite a decent XC ski in deep soft snow- if you get em long enough. The Epoch is really the same if you are a very light skier. At 175+lbs I find the Epoch totally unstable.

The Eon:
- less sidecut
- more camber and tension underfoot
- track groove
- longer lengths

Compared to a double-cambered ski the Eon is fairly dead on consolidated snow as well- but MUCH better than the Epoch/Annum- and with less sidecut and a track groove, the Eon tracks much better.

The Eon is also only 62mm and therfore easily put on edge with a soft XC boot.
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Re: Will NNNBC handle this?

Post by t-$ » Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:10 am

yes...

:)



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Re: Will NNNBC handle this?

Post by lilcliffy » Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:11 am

BTW-
I just flexed the current Rossi BC 80/100.
These are not stiff double-cambered skis (not that there is anything wrong with a double-cambered ski- depends on intended use).

Both of these skis are less-cambered and softer-rounder flexing than the Fischer 78/88 (the outgoing Rossi BC90 is a rebadged Fischer 88).

I think that even the Madshus Eon has more resistance underfoot than the current Rossi BC80...

I am not sure why these skis get shiet on so much on this site- they look like perfectly decent light BC Nordic touring skis.
Are they "high-performance"- compared to other options out there no..
The waxless bases still look kinda crappy in terms of grip- but the reports on the current Asnes WL design sounds similar- and although many love the Fischer Offtrack Crown (myself included)- many skiers find the Offtrack Crown to grippy and not glidey enough- preferring the older Fischer scale designs- the Rossis might be just fine.

The Rossi BC ski are good value from my perspective.
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Re: Will NNNBC handle this?

Post by Krummholz » Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:36 am

I had the Rossi BC70’s. By the end of the first season I realized the scale on them is pretty wimpy and I had to start using skins whenever I had to do any climb more than 5 - 10 degrees.
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Re: Will NNNBC handle this?

Post by johral » Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:05 pm

BTW - if you decide to go with a 3 Pin binding, I have a NIB pair of Alpina Alaskas in a size 45 looking for a new home.



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