E99 vs. Outback 68 vs. Sporten Ranger

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Re: E99 vs. Outback 68 vs. Sporten Ranger

Post by Ski nut » Sat Apr 04, 2020 9:45 pm

These are the types of trails I frequent.
Some with fresh now, the others very late March at melt and no longer groomed but packed trail from former groomer tracks.

These again are with response to the question at outset of best choice of ski for my use: Fischer E99 vs. Outback 68 or Sporten Ranger.

These photos are of the last few trails I frequented in late Feb the one with fresh snow, the other in very late March 2020 at meltdown. I am always cramming to ski late in the year often as sun is warm and cheery.
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trail sample with a friend
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late in year ungroomed by packed 4
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late in year ungroomed by packed 1
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late in year ungroomed by packed 2
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late in year ungroomed by packed 3
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This type of XC ski area beside trail
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This type of trails I ski

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Re: E99 vs. Outback 68 vs. Sporten Ranger

Post by Woodserson » Sat Apr 04, 2020 9:58 pm

E99.

It'll fit in the track better than the other two.



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E99 + others and Boots (leather?)

Post by Ski nut » Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:46 am

Wooderson and Ski Folks,
One more on skis, E99 is the top of the line price range, is there a ski that's solid quality without the famous branding that I could shop for as well? Comparison ski without the $300CAD sale price?

Boots? : Alfa worth their price? Is leather the way to go? Even Fischer I saw had a back-country leather boot. Support like a hiking boot I expect that surrounds the ankle? I do like the ease of the zipper up Fischer boots I have but understand that support will lack and the vinyl and nylon will eventually rip and wear out. Do you use leather?
Are Alfa's worth their price? Do they hold up?



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Re: E99 vs. Outback 68 vs. Sporten Ranger

Post by fisheater » Tue Apr 07, 2020 12:22 pm

Alpina Alaska is still a popular boot. Nice for K&G, plenty of power to turn



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Re: E99 vs. Outback 68 vs. Sporten Ranger

Post by fisheater » Tue Apr 07, 2020 12:27 pm

https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-FISCHER-E9 ... SwtjBd0V0L

Brand new E-99’s 200 cm ships from Canada $99

Act fast

Sorry I forget your weight, they would probably still be okay at my 190 lbs, but I would prefer them longer



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Re: E99 vs. Outback 68 vs. Sporten Ranger

Post by Woodserson » Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:21 pm

fisheater wrote:
Tue Apr 07, 2020 12:27 pm
https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-FISCHER-E9 ... SwtjBd0V0L

Brand new E-99’s 200 cm ships from Canada $99

Act fast

Sorry I forget your weight, they would probably still be okay at my 190 lbs, but I would prefer them longer
Smoking deal, but keep in mind this is a WAX ski.

Good length for 140lbs + backpack. It'll have great glide and decent grip with strong technique. If you hare up on your grip waxing.



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Re: E99 vs. Outback 68 vs. Sporten Ranger

Post by bgregoire » Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:23 pm

fisheater wrote:
Tue Apr 07, 2020 12:27 pm
https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-FISCHER-E9 ... SwtjBd0V0L

Brand new E-99’s 200 cm ships from Canada $99

Act fast

Sorry I forget your weight, they would probably still be okay at my 190 lbs, but I would prefer them longer
F is on the ticket. Get those E99s QUICK (say before I do) and add a pair of Alpina Alaskas. Keep those Alfas for when you are really willing to splurge. The Alaskas might be everything your ever need.
I live for the Telemark arc....The feeeeeeel.....I ski miles to get to a place where there is guaranteed snow to do the deal....TM



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E99 without wax?

Post by Ski nut » Mon Apr 13, 2020 7:44 am

I have no clue about waxing. I seek E99 without wax. Such a thing?
If I wax anything it's my car. I try to get my alpine waxed and tuned by a good shop.

I do not ever want to have to wax my cross-country skis, I haven't time to learn that till I am 70, now I am 45 years and 140lbs, 65kg weight and 5'10" tall.



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Re: E99 vs. Outback 68 vs. Sporten Ranger

Post by Ski nut » Mon Apr 13, 2020 8:00 am

Woodserson and Folks,

QUESTION: COULD I PUT ON A WAX FOR ALL PURPOSE ON THESE E99 BCX (easy skin, $99.) THAT WOULD LAST LIKE 2 YEARS OF USE?

(I WILL NEVER USE THE YELLOW SKINS, EVER, ALSO I NEVER APPLY WAX TO XC SKIS, TOO MUCH HASSLE) I herringbone up hills.



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Re: E99 vs. Outback 68 vs. Sporten Ranger

Post by fisheater » Mon Apr 13, 2020 9:39 am

Ski nut, i do not know whether you are referring to the waxable or waxless E-99. I am assuming you are referring to the waxless model.
You can wax a waxless ski with yellow wax. Yellow is a soft wax that is sold for use with wet snow. You can also wax the scales and do a quick wipe while the wax is still liquid. I am more or less a two wax hot waxer, but I still have some cold temp green if temps dip to single digits F. Otherwise I use red, unless the snow is melting then yellow. If I only used one wax it would be red. Yellow is only good for melting snow.
Everybody enjoys life their own way. We all find certain things daunting, cumbersome, or just undesirable. Whatever your reason for not wanting to wax is fine, it’s you, and you are human with the right to think as you please. However there is nothing like a properly kick waxed ski. Scales are not the same. That being said we have had skiers from of all places Norway, singing the praises of a waxless Nansen ski this winter. The Nansen is in the same class as the E-99, but with a different geometry.
Good luck regardless, and it is certainly a good thing to have a waxless E-99.



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