The NNN/BC Truth Thread

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Re: The NNN/BC Truth Thread

Post by Raventele » Tue Oct 28, 2014 7:29 pm

CIMA wrote:
Raventele wrote:Cima, you should leave such bad snow for pinners! :lol:
So, show us the proof by videos!
Easier said than done.
Your contention needs supports showing a distinct difference between 3-pin and NNN (SNS)/BC during skiing.
?? You have shown us NO such thing as "proof by videos" either! Only skiing NNN on basically soft and pretty EZ conditions..But that's ok, we are still interested in the technique!
(How a laterally floppy binding and very soft boot become superior for downhill control, escapes me , btw)
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Re: The NNN/BC Truth Thread

Post by CIMA » Tue Oct 28, 2014 7:46 pm

Raventele wrote:^^ Yea, but, as I mentioned before, the differences are marginal..The BC version is, no doubt, a tiny bit tighter and more laterally stable. A bit bigger bar and clamp..That's about it..Screws etc appear to be identical..
But perhaps someone with the BC version could do the same basic twisting "test" I did on my XC skis and post the results for us ?
What?
You have never skied on NNN/BC like Crispi Jokulen/Rottefella NNN BC?
All of your posts of the past came just out of your guessing?
If so, please stop saying such booogus anymore.
There is a big difference between normal NNN and NNN/BC.

Though I don't have enough experience on 3-pin, I skied on leather boots/Rottefella 3-pin Super Telemark a couple of times.
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Re: The NNN/BC Truth Thread

Post by CIMA » Tue Oct 28, 2014 7:56 pm

Raventele wrote: ?? You have shown us NO such thing as "proof by videos" either! Only skiing NNN on basically soft and pretty EZ conditions..But that's ok, we are still interested in the technique!
(How a laterally floppy binding and very soft boot become superior for downhill control, escapes me , btw)
I have done it already.
In addition, mild slopes with nice and soft snow are the main fields of NNN/BC.
Those are the creams of skiing.

Since you've been touting the stability of 3-pins, you must be able to show us a lot of samples of 3-pin moguls at least. :)
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Re: The NNN/BC Truth Thread

Post by Raventele » Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:00 pm

CIMA wrote:
Raventele wrote:^^ Yea, but, as I mentioned before, the differences are marginal..The BC version is, no doubt, a tiny bit tighter and more laterally stable. A bit bigger bar and clamp..That's about it..Screws etc appear to be identical..
But perhaps someone with the BC version could do the same basic twisting "test" I did on my XC skis and post the results for us ?
What?
You have never skied on NNN/BC like Crispi Jokulen/Rottefella NNN BC?
All of your posts of the past came just out of your guessing?
If so, please stop saying such booogus anymore.
There is a big difference between normal NNN and NNN/BC.

Though I don't have enough experience on 3-pin, I skied on leather boots/Rottefella 3-pin Super Telemark a couple of times.
^^ Huh ? Most recently last Jan. in Colorado..as I mentioned at the very start of the thread! :lol:
Had been a few years since..
Hard , icy snow, and the best I could manage were skiddy parallels ..but we had lots of fun !
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Re: The NNN/BC Truth Thread

Post by CIMA » Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:03 pm

Sorry, I cannot tell what gear you were on then.
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Re: The NNN/BC Truth Thread

Post by Raventele » Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:04 pm

CIMA wrote:
Raventele wrote: ?? You have shown us NO such thing as "proof by videos" either! Only skiing NNN on basically soft and pretty EZ conditions..But that's ok, we are still interested in the technique!
(How a laterally floppy binding and very soft boot become superior for downhill control, escapes me , btw)
I have done it already.
In addition, mild slopes with nice and soft snow are the main fields of NNN/BC.
Those are the creams of skiing.

Since you've been touting the stability of 3-pins, you must be able to show us a lot of samples of 3-pin moguls at least. :)
Pins and bumps..much steeper than it appears also.
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Unusually warm March day by noon..I am standing around there in green..later I walked down the slope .. :lol:
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Re: The NNN/BC Truth Thread

Post by CIMA » Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:12 pm

Because of pictures only, we cannot tell how well the guys were skiing.
Please mention the gear at least.

BTW, I would give such bad snow to my dogs.
There are plenty of nice snow out here. :)
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Re: The NNN/BC Truth Thread

Post by Raventele » Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:16 pm

Lucky dogs! Malamutes or Huskies ?
To hell with the dogs, leave the corn snow of spring for pinners!
Most on Voile 3pin/cables that day..Telekid was skiing some old alpine ski from the 90's maybe..
I was skiing Alpina Lite Terrains..I managed at least 2 nice long slides on the ice here and there! :lol:
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Re: The NNN/BC Truth Thread

Post by Raventele » Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:18 pm

CIMA wrote:Sorry, I cannot tell what gear you were on then.
You must trust..Like skiing NNN!
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Re: The NNN/BC Truth Thread

Post by CIMA » Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:21 pm

Raventele wrote:
CIMA wrote:Sorry, I cannot tell what gear you were on then.
You must trust..Like skiing NNN!
Which configuration of ski, boots and bindings, exactly? :?
Please be open.
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