Voile 3 Pin Cable Climbing Wire Compatibility
- EvanTrem
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Voile 3 Pin Cable Climbing Wire Compatibility
So I just mounted up some Voile 3 Pin Cable bindings to my new Madshus Annums. I was rooting around in my box of ski junk and I found that I had two sets of heel climbing wires. One set from Black Diamond O3's and one set from G3 Targas. I tried to put both of them onto the heel plate of the 3 Pin Cables, but it seems like the wire diameter is too big. Even after some cutting and dremeling to the underside of the Voile heel plate, I couldn't get either set to work. Does anyone know if the Voile climbing wires work 100% out of the box with the standard 3 Pin Cable binding heel plate? I might order some up from Voile but I want to be sure they work well before I do.
Thanks!
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- Woodserson
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Re: Voile 3 Pin Cable Climbing Wire Compatibility
I've never had an issue with them not fitting but they are tricky to install and can make you feel like they're not fitting.EvanTrem wrote:So I just mounted up some Voile 3 Pin Cable bindings to my new Madshus Annums. I was rooting around in my box of ski junk and I found that I had two sets of heel climbing wires. One set from Black Diamond O3's and one set from G3 Targas. I tried to put both of them onto the heel plate of the 3 Pin Cables, but it seems like the wire diameter is too big. Even after some cutting and dremeling to the underside of the Voile heel plate, I couldn't get either set to work. Does anyone know if the Voile climbing wires work 100% out of the box with the standard 3 Pin Cable binding heel plate? I might order some up from Voile but I want to be sure they work well before I do.
Thanks!
The trick I have found is to install them into the heel piece in their vertical-you-are-climbing-a-steep position, install the heel piece with the wire sticking straight up, THEN push them flat to the ski. Works every time.
Try with your off-brand wires first, for fun.
Re: Voile 3 Pin Cable Climbing Wire Compatibility
I just picked up a set of voile wires thinking they would just snap into the riser but it appears the riser actually needs to be removed and re-installed to do this. Can anyone confirm? Is there a graceful way to get the little screw caps out of the riser? Thanks!
Re: Voile 3 Pin Cable Climbing Wire Compatibility
Yes, the climbing wires need to be installed into the heel piece before attaching to the ski. Those caps usually have a narrow notch at the edge into which you can insert a very small and thin flathead screwdriver. They pop out easily once you get the screwdriver deep enough.dace wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:00 pmI just picked up a set of voile wires thinking they would just snap into the riser but it appears the riser actually needs to be removed and re-installed to do this. Can anyone confirm? Is there a graceful way to get the little screw caps out of the riser? Thanks!
- Woodserson
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Re: Voile 3 Pin Cable Climbing Wire Compatibility
As Connyro said abovedace wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:00 pmI just picked up a set of voile wires thinking they would just snap into the riser but it appears the riser actually needs to be removed and re-installed to do this. Can anyone confirm? Is there a graceful way to get the little screw caps out of the riser? Thanks!
If the screw caps you have are the little round circles you're going to have to use a punch or pick and poke a hole in the top and pry off, add some glue to reseal the hole.
- fisheater
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Re: Voile 3 Pin Cable Climbing Wire Compatibility
Yes, Voile riser wires require the riser block to be removed for installation.
- TheDeerman
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Re: Voile 3 Pin Cable Climbing Wire Compatibility
Just mounted some Voile 3-Pins with cables, including the 48mm climbing wires between the spacer and heel pad. Question for others with this setup....after installation, does it take a ridiculous amount of force to move the climbing wire into and out of its elevated position? As instructed, I kept the climbing wires vertical while I was screwing in the heel pads, but I could not push the wires down by hand afterwards. Has anyone else dealt with this, and does it get easier to move the wires up and down after a "breaking in" period?
- TheDeerman
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Re: Voile 3 Pin Cable Climbing Wire Compatibility
Update: I was able to get them up and down without breaking anything. But I do have a much older pair of skis where the wires require the force of the backside of a hammer to pull up into the vertical position.TheDeerman wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2024 9:33 amJust mounted some Voile 3-Pins with cables, including the 48mm climbing wires between the spacer and heel pad. Question for others with this setup....after installation, does it take a ridiculous amount of force to move the climbing wire into and out of its elevated position? As instructed, I kept the climbing wires vertical while I was screwing in the heel pads, but I could not push the wires down by hand afterwards. Has anyone else dealt with this, and does it get easier to move the wires up and down after a "breaking in" period?