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Re: The Åsnes Thread

Post by Johnny » Sun Jan 07, 2018 8:34 am

lilcliffy wrote:Don't know how old the Storetind design is- but it would appear that Asnes has been playing with "Nordic rocker" flex patterns on their hybrid and Telemark/At skis long before the new Nordic-rockered Ingstad.
Niiice...! They came out in 2014 I think?
lilcliffy wrote:At the very least, I can confirm that the photo of the Storetind's open tips is with the camber fully compressed.
That is really weird... I wonder how we are supposed to make clear decisions when pictures show compressed camber...? They should mention it somewhere... What Asnes really need now is a North American Reviewers Street Team!
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Re: The Åsnes Thread

Post by lilcliffy » Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:29 am

If you look at the two photos of the Storetind's tips-
one shows the "static" rocker of the tip- with the camber uncompressed;
the other shows the "Nordic" rocker with the camber compressed.
https://www.asnes.com/produkt/storetind-carbon-2/

Similarly- the tail on this ski opens up a bit with the camber compressed- can see it in the two photos of the tails- is this a Nordic-rockered tail? :o

There is not a photo of the uncompressed camber of this ski on that webpage.

What I can report is that this ski has a stiff single camber (Alpine camber- not as high a camber as the S-Bounds/Madshus XCDs). When I hold the two skis together- uncompressed- the profile of the skis look just like Voile's photos of the "hybrid" rocker (without tail rocker) on skis like the Objective and Vector.

I don't think there is any way to judge the camber-rocker profiles of the current Falketinds and Tinds without asking Asnes specific questions- and/or perhaps getting a subscription to UTE magazine...Asnes' photos just don't do it- and, much seems to get lost in translation on the English website...

What seems clear to me is that all of these skis- Falketind 62/68; Tind 76/85- are different- with different design intent. In other words, they are not just wider versions of the same skis.

The Falketind 62 has serious sidecut, rockered tip, carbon reinforcement, single camber, and a XC track groove- this is a VERY different ski than the wider FT68...
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Re: The Åsnes Thread

Post by Johnny » Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:24 pm

NR tails! Now that's something really new...! :lol:

They are obviously different beasts... I need a pair of T76 and a pair of FT68... And a pair of Eggis, wish they were making 145cm ones... 8-)
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Re: The Åsnes Thread

Post by fisheater » Sun Mar 04, 2018 7:20 pm

I have now put the Falketind 62 through some different conditions which I have recorded in the review section. The FT 62 for me is superior both on piste and trail to the S-112. There may be niche conditions where I may prefer the S-112, but overall my preference will be the FT 62. I always wondered how people liked to tour on the Objective with all the sidecut of that ski. The FT 62 has answered that question, in soft snow, the right design tours nicely even with significant sidecut. That is not to say a 210 cm touring ski would not tour better, but the FT 62 has significant sidecut, and it tours nicely in soft snow. While not ideal on a hard pack trail, the little bit of wax drag, and the bit of wander, is far better than my S-bound experience. I really encourage people to look into not only the Falketind 62 & 68, but also the Tind 76. The Tind 85 is similar to the Objective by specification so perhaps it is best to stay with the proven Voile design. For smaller, lighter, xcD skis, I strongly urge people to look into the Asnes skis. I am pleased I did.



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Re: The Åsnes Thread

Post by Woodserson » Sun Mar 04, 2018 10:51 pm

fisheater wrote:I have now put the Falketind 62 through some different conditions which I have recorded in the review section. The FT 62 for me is superior both on piste and trail to the S-112. There may be niche conditions where I may prefer the S-112, but overall my preference will be the FT 62. I always wondered how people liked to tour on the Objective with all the sidecut of that ski. The FT 62 has answered that question, in soft snow, the right design tours nicely even with significant sidecut. That is not to say a 210 cm touring ski would not tour better, but the FT 62 has significant sidecut, and it tours nicely in soft snow. While not ideal on a hard pack trail, the little bit of wax drag, and the bit of wander, is far better than my S-bound experience. I really encourage people to look into not only the Falketind 62 & 68, but also the Tind 76. The Tind 85 is similar to the Objective by specification so perhaps it is best to stay with the proven Voile design. For smaller, lighter, xcD skis, I strongly urge people to look into the Asnes skis. I am pleased I did.
Where have you been sourcing yours, again?



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Re: The Åsnes Thread

Post by fisheater » Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:52 pm

Woods, I had to order my skis from Sport Albert. I checked all the North American suppliers I could think of but no luck. I bought the X-skins from Neptune, but they didn't have the skis. Strange thing is that HBS states they have a few pair of FT 62 on the floor. I would have been pleased to have ordered them in US dollars and not need to buy a plane ride from Germany. I will say Sport Albert had them to my door in a little more than a week from Germany, so I was impressed.



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Re: The Åsnes Thread

Post by HBS » Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:52 am

It was either the 62 or the 68 - I'll check next time I swing by (maybe they'll be on sale after this craptacular winter)



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Re: The Åsnes Thread

Post by lilcliffy » Sat Mar 31, 2018 2:58 pm

Some updates from correspondence with Asnes:
Hello from Canada!
First of all- congratulations to Norway for the success at the Winter Olympics!
I am trying to decide between the Falketind 62 versus the FT68.
How would you describe the difference between these two skis?
I own the Storetind. What is the difference between the Storetind and the the FT68?
I notice from the photos that the FT62 has a track groove- is this correct?
Does the track groove improve the cross-country performance of the FT62?
Thank you,
Gareth
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Hi Gareth
Thanks for your email.
Falketind 62 is an advances back country ski, and has as you mentioned a tack groove, that will improve the cross country performance.
If you are hiking in flat/moderate terrain, I would recommend this ski.
Falketind 68 replaces Stretind. This ski is a combination between a back country ski and a top touring ski.
This ski is that is made for climbing and downhill skiing in steeper terrain.
You can read more about the skis on our website http://www.asnes.com.
Hope this was helpful.
Have a nice day!
Med venleg helsing / Best regards
Kathrine Gundersen
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...............

Hello Kathrine,
Thank you very much for your reply.
Is the Falketind 68 very different from the Storetind? Other than the tip notch, are there any significant differences between the Storetind and the FT68?
Thank you,
Gareth
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Hi again
That’s correct, there are no big differences between Storetind and Falketind 68, other than the tip notch.
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Review of the Storetind/FT68 to come...I was hoping to put it through its paces on a groomed surface before I wrote the review- but, I cannot seem to get out of the hills! To be brief- the ST is the stuff of dreams- it is everything I have hoped for and found wanting in "hybrid XCD" skis like Madshus/Karhu's XCDs and Fischer's S-Bounds...

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Re: The Åsnes Thread

Post by Woodserson » Sat Mar 31, 2018 6:40 pm

LC- what binding and boot, again?



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Re: The Åsnes Thread

Post by lilcliffy » Sat Mar 31, 2018 6:56 pm

Voile 3pin hardwire

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