Which bindings and should I even use these skis
Re: Which bindings and should I even use these skis
Well I received the bindings today Voile 3 pin traverse bindings, the cables come off for k&g and I'll probably not need them much but they have the heel lifts for climbing. I think I'm going to stick with the BCX675 for now and order them tomorrow. REI dividend time for those. I think I'll have a ski shop put these on as I'm not wanting to mess it all up. Unfortunately we don't have many of those in Texas.
-
lowangle al
- Posts: 2755
- Joined: Sat Jan 11, 2014 3:36 pm
- Location: Pocono Mts / Chugach Mts
- Ski style: BC with focus on downhill perfection
- Favorite Skis: powder skis
- Favorite boots: Scarpa T4
- Occupation: Retired cement mason. Current job is to take my recreation as serious as I did my past employment.
Re: Which bindings and should I even use these skis
My guess is that you won't need the heel lifts.
-
fisheater
- Posts: 2622
- Joined: Fri Feb 19, 2016 8:06 pm
- Location: Oakland County, MI
- Ski style: All my own, and age doesn't help
- Favorite Skis: Gamme 54, Falketind 62, I hope to add a third soon
- Favorite boots: Alpina Alaska, Alico Ski March
- Occupation: Construction Manager
Re: Which bindings and should I even use these skis
If you are not going to need the heel lift, perhaps the riser plates on the traverse will not be an advantage either? The USGI is pretty narrow at the waist, I personally do not see an advantage to a riser plate. You are skiing with a softer boot, the increased leverage you benefit from the riser, may not be an advantage on the K&G ? I just do not see an advantage, the boot is wider than the ski, BOF should be right on the edge. If I had mine mounted, and we had snow I could tell you with certainty.
I am not trying to cause you grief by asking, but I think it is something to think about.
I am not trying to cause you grief by asking, but I think it is something to think about.
Re: Which bindings and should I even use these skis
I think you are bold, OP.
OK, I am an old man, and I wonder just how old you are, because its gonna matter.
The ski you are chosing is not gonna be a beginner ski, and I think yo are a beginner from Texas, Yes? Did I totally misconscrew that?
I do (or have) done mountain skiing. I mean peaks, using skis as approach vehicles. With packs, overights. Weekenders. Week-longers. Outward bound kinda ski trips. And I been into Titcomb Lakes, though a long time ago. So all my advice is gonna be old and weak, like me.
But those skis will not be forgiving and ten miles a day is a damn long way in those terrain, carrying a big top heavy pack. It may be exaushting if you are not spry or amazing. Carry a bigass bottle of aspirin and begin taking it before you even get to the mountain. You are gonna want thin blood and a lot of analgesia. Bruises will look kinda sick, but you will be able to BREATHE. The terrain is very hard and rocky in spring you will have rock hard ice covering the rock hard frozen soil, hitting the ground will hurt with a pack on. If those skis are double camber they will never ski like a downhill adapted ski, making any real turns at all will be a miracle, you are gonna be kickturning your traverses and with long skis... you will be working hard. Make sure you don't buy a skin too wide for your ski, most skins now are fatties and you got kinda old school rig going on. Cut them to fit, you win't want the excess weight.
This is what you are asking about, and I would take these over what you are putting together. This was the rig to run with during the Vietnam war. Aluminum top plate, steel microedges, GS flex pattern, wide enough for floating a fat pack with food, sleeping gear and beer. (Well, I was too young for beer, even in Colorado.) Too strong to break 20 miles of 10 feet deep snow from home.
A good skier can do what you want, with what you want to use. But for gudness sake, I'd just rent a dedicated modern rig for one trip and save your experiment until you are not in a mission critical environment. Are your buddies gonna be bummed if that rig won't fly? Will you die if a late storm drives you into a ski or die situation? Even tiny late season avalanches often have a lot of debris and ice chunks... late season snags and hidden branches... and the switchbacks along the trail usta be kinda steep here and there. Probably a lot of ice hard wind crust instead of "snow".
Interesting trip, wish I were going. Incredibly beautiful. Also remote and serious, especially when snow covers everything, including the approach. Hard to get support kinda place. Not FRS radio range, so to speak.
You are gonna get beat to hell, spend cold nights in the snow and then get to trudge up the peaks. Some places may be terrifying. It will be a trip you remember all your life, a proud trip into a remote area. Go rent the best things you can find, you are gonna want it. Adjustable poles, for the steeps. How old are you? How much off the couch? And you have skiied at least a little?
...Carry an extra, thin foam (closed cell) sleeping pad... WR is a COLD place.
... try and get the same kinda gear as your mates. Guys with similar gear find it much easier to travel in a group.
Get a case of those little energy drinks, the medicine sized bottles. Carry a bunch of them.
OK, I am an old man, and I wonder just how old you are, because its gonna matter.
The ski you are chosing is not gonna be a beginner ski, and I think yo are a beginner from Texas, Yes? Did I totally misconscrew that?
I do (or have) done mountain skiing. I mean peaks, using skis as approach vehicles. With packs, overights. Weekenders. Week-longers. Outward bound kinda ski trips. And I been into Titcomb Lakes, though a long time ago. So all my advice is gonna be old and weak, like me.
But those skis will not be forgiving and ten miles a day is a damn long way in those terrain, carrying a big top heavy pack. It may be exaushting if you are not spry or amazing. Carry a bigass bottle of aspirin and begin taking it before you even get to the mountain. You are gonna want thin blood and a lot of analgesia. Bruises will look kinda sick, but you will be able to BREATHE. The terrain is very hard and rocky in spring you will have rock hard ice covering the rock hard frozen soil, hitting the ground will hurt with a pack on. If those skis are double camber they will never ski like a downhill adapted ski, making any real turns at all will be a miracle, you are gonna be kickturning your traverses and with long skis... you will be working hard. Make sure you don't buy a skin too wide for your ski, most skins now are fatties and you got kinda old school rig going on. Cut them to fit, you win't want the excess weight.
- These are Silverettas used on DH skis and with Mountain boots. !n 1970. Stuff has moved on since.
A good skier can do what you want, with what you want to use. But for gudness sake, I'd just rent a dedicated modern rig for one trip and save your experiment until you are not in a mission critical environment. Are your buddies gonna be bummed if that rig won't fly? Will you die if a late storm drives you into a ski or die situation? Even tiny late season avalanches often have a lot of debris and ice chunks... late season snags and hidden branches... and the switchbacks along the trail usta be kinda steep here and there. Probably a lot of ice hard wind crust instead of "snow".
Interesting trip, wish I were going. Incredibly beautiful. Also remote and serious, especially when snow covers everything, including the approach. Hard to get support kinda place. Not FRS radio range, so to speak.
You are gonna get beat to hell, spend cold nights in the snow and then get to trudge up the peaks. Some places may be terrifying. It will be a trip you remember all your life, a proud trip into a remote area. Go rent the best things you can find, you are gonna want it. Adjustable poles, for the steeps. How old are you? How much off the couch? And you have skiied at least a little?
...Carry an extra, thin foam (closed cell) sleeping pad... WR is a COLD place.
... try and get the same kinda gear as your mates. Guys with similar gear find it much easier to travel in a group.
Get a case of those little energy drinks, the medicine sized bottles. Carry a bunch of them.
Re: Which bindings and should I even use these skis
Well after talking to Voile today, I'll be happy with the Traverse that I bought, Thanks everyone for the help, I'll throw up some pictures when I'm back from my trip and let ya'll know if I survived skiing the distance, lol..