Wax/alpine ski suitable for pins at a ski area

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Re: Wax/alpine ski suitable for pins at a ski area

Post by Cannatonic » Mon Feb 22, 2016 3:37 pm

I'd look for something slim & light - for me the Antarctic aren't solid enough to roll wider skis up on the edges in turns. They have firm ankle support but they twist fairly easily.
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Re: Wax/alpine ski suitable for pins at a ski area

Post by Woodserson » Mon Feb 22, 2016 4:49 pm

I picked up those Wax Outtabounds last week on ebay-- where to mount? Forward or Back? 3cm mounting zone. I have my opinion, what are yours?

Edit. Screw it, I just go for CC. The two skis are 1/4" apart, which is interesting. Same serial number.



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Re: Wax/alpine ski suitable for pins at a ski area

Post by bgregoire » Mon Feb 22, 2016 5:14 pm

Woodserson wrote:I picked up those Wax Outtabounds last week on ebay-- where to mount? Forward or Back? 3cm mounting zone. I have my opinion, what are yours?

Edit. Screw it, I just go for CC. The two skis are 1/4" apart, which is interesting. Same serial number.
Your the lucky guy! Let me know if you don't like, they would compliment my income Boundless Wax nicely! ;)

1/4" apart, that's common, just find the middle ground.

Have fun on the Down. They seem similar to my Karhu Tour 10th MTNs and they are a blast!
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Re: Wax/alpine ski suitable for pins at a ski area

Post by Woodserson » Mon Feb 22, 2016 5:31 pm

Did you find the Boundless Wax?!?



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Re: Wax/alpine ski suitable for pins at a ski area

Post by bgregoire » Mon Feb 22, 2016 5:57 pm

Woodserson wrote:Did you find the Boundless Wax?!?
Yes! Thanks to TTalk!
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Re: Wax/alpine ski suitable for pins at a ski area

Post by Cannatonic » Mon Feb 22, 2016 6:55 pm

Woodserson wrote:I picked up those Wax Outtabounds last week on ebay-- where to mount? Forward or Back? 3cm mounting zone. I have my opinion, what are yours?

Edit. Screw it, I just go for CC. The two skis are 1/4" apart, which is interesting. Same serial number.
sounds cool, nothing like finding the new pair of skis you want for 70% off. I think CC is right for flatter camber tele skis which is what these are. BP and CC are probably within 1cm of each other, I wouldn't go forward any more for 3-pin bindings.
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Re: Wax/alpine ski suitable for pins at a ski area

Post by Woodserson » Mon Feb 22, 2016 7:06 pm

BB and CC were actually exactly the same. I was thinking of putting them slightly forward for turn initiation stuff since these aren't the steep and deep skis, but then just decided after some cajoling from my Tele friend decided not to mess with historical-workiness. Been skinning up Pats and skiing down. It was brutal today after the freeze. Concrete Corduroy. We couldn't hear each other talking over the sound of the skis on the corduroy--- on the way up! Clatterclatterclatterclatter. Bleg.



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Re: Wax/alpine ski suitable for pins at a ski area

Post by Cannatonic » Mon Feb 22, 2016 7:48 pm

sounds like good training, which skis did you use for the ice-mission?

I think moving the bindings forward might feel better skiing hardpack, but you don't want to be forward in powder. Might as well optimize them for powder. I'm realizing that BP and CC will always feel a touch awkward on the downhill if you're used to alpine gear. I tried +1 inch and even +1.5 inch over the last year, I decided to stick with BP/CC in the future.
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Re: Wax/alpine ski suitable for pins at a ski area

Post by Woodserson » Mon Feb 22, 2016 8:45 pm

I've been playing between the 88s and the 98s. The 88s actually were mounted forward about an inch, and they turn great, but I haven't been in powder this season for reasons that are crystal clear, I'm sure. The non-wax skis are LOUD on that frozen stuff, I'm looking forward to some relative peace and quiet. The Outtabounds are definitely stiffer and more cambery than the 88s, forward would make things easier for a tele-hack like me, but I can always move them forward, I'd rather be optimized for powder to, and improve my own technique for the hardpack, nothing is worse than being mounted too forward in the powpow.

BTW My NNN jig works great for the Voile bindings, since the two screw positions on the NNN line up with the Voile, and the center is the same, it's just a question of sliding the jig back and forth on the ski. A good hack.



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Re: Wax/alpine ski suitable for pins at a ski area

Post by Woodserson » Tue Feb 23, 2016 12:04 pm

The Outtabounds are awesome, and work well with the leather Crispi's. I'm pretty pleased, though I'm still a telehack. But this is a perfect ski to go practice at a ski area all day without tearing up the scales. Polecat here I come! I do think I would like it if they were mounted a bit more forward, but I don't know if that's because of my tele inexperience or because they could actually stand to come forward a bit. I'm going to sit on it for now.



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