Altai Kom skis
- lilcliffy
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- Ski style: backcountry Nordic ski touring
- Favorite Skis: Asnes Ingstad, Combat Nato, Amundsen, Rabb 68; Altai Kom
- Favorite boots: Alpina Alaska BC; Lundhags Expedition; Alfa Skaget XP; Scarpa T4
- Occupation: Forestry Professional
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Re: Altai Skis Hok Review
I would like to hear what Nils has to say on Kom length....(hint, hint).
However- my perspective is always about context...
As a yo-yo mtn ski- on very steep terrain and/or dense cover- requiring aggressive, short-radius turns- GO SHORT.
As a mountain touring ski- with a desire to cover some distance as well as downhill performance- then GO LONG.
But- obviously even 175cm is not long- in a traditional K&G sense...
Maybe that should lead to the development of the next two Altai skis (hint, hint):
1) long-distance mtn touring ski (XCD)
2) long distance BC-XC ski (less downhill, more XC performance)
However- my perspective is always about context...
As a yo-yo mtn ski- on very steep terrain and/or dense cover- requiring aggressive, short-radius turns- GO SHORT.
As a mountain touring ski- with a desire to cover some distance as well as downhill performance- then GO LONG.
But- obviously even 175cm is not long- in a traditional K&G sense...
Maybe that should lead to the development of the next two Altai skis (hint, hint):
1) long-distance mtn touring ski (XCD)
2) long distance BC-XC ski (less downhill, more XC performance)
Cross-country AND down-hill skiing in the backcountry.
Unashamed to be a "cross-country type" and love skiing down-hill.
Unashamed to be a "cross-country type" and love skiing down-hill.
Re: Altai Skis Hok Review
If you have time, Altai is doing a ski demo and Instruction in WA at the Sitzmark Ski Area Feb. 6. Check their website! Maybe Nils &/or Francois would consider doing one of those on the east coast of the continent, please?!Woodserson wrote:How does one choose between the different lengths? This for me would have to be a try-before-I-buy ski, though I don't deny I'm very interested. I wonder how many lengths ORS will mount up. Almost worth a drive, if we get snow.
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Re: Altai Skis Hok Review
Personally I would go by weight. It's a deep snow ski. I wouldn't think there'd be significant touring advantage to using a longer ski, but a significant disadvantage is it doesn't float your weight.
Just a SWAG:
Less than 130-140 lbs, go for the short version.
140-180 lbs, go for the original.
180+ lbs, go long.
I'm roughly using the Vector tables as a guide (pun not intended).
Just a SWAG:
Less than 130-140 lbs, go for the short version.
140-180 lbs, go for the original.
180+ lbs, go long.
I'm roughly using the Vector tables as a guide (pun not intended).
Re: Altai Kom skis
PS moved KOM discussion from Hok review. Don't want to drift a review too much with a different product...
Re: Altai Kom skis
PPS Goddamn it you guys.
I had it in my mind I wasn't going to want a ski like this... but the more TTalk it gets, the more curious I am...
I had it in my mind I wasn't going to want a ski like this... but the more TTalk it gets, the more curious I am...
- Woodserson
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- Location: New Hampshire
- Ski style: Bumps, trees, steeps and long woodsy XC tours
- Occupation: Confused Turn Farmer
Re: Altai Kom skis
YESSSSSS exactly. Me too! It sounds looks and feels legit, it would be a great ski for New England and NY, methinks.
- lilcliffy
- Posts: 4157
- Joined: Thu Jan 01, 2015 6:20 pm
- Location: Stanley, New Brunswick, Canada
- Ski style: backcountry Nordic ski touring
- Favorite Skis: Asnes Ingstad, Combat Nato, Amundsen, Rabb 68; Altai Kom
- Favorite boots: Alpina Alaska BC; Lundhags Expedition; Alfa Skaget XP; Scarpa T4
- Occupation: Forestry Professional
Instructor at Maritime College of Forest Technology
Husband, father, farmer and logger
Re: Altai Skis Hok Review
Disagree on this one- in my experience length = glide- always. The 175cm Kom should greatly offer better K&G performance than the 150cm. It's a single-cambered powder ski- even very light skiers should have no problem controlling the camber underfoot, in a downhill turn.MikeK wrote: It's a deep snow ski. I wouldn't think there'd be significant touring advantage to using a longer ski
The shorter length is going to primarily effect turning radius and maneuverability.
But- if you want to cover some distance with it- the 175cm Kom should be more efficient in a XC context.
Cross-country AND down-hill skiing in the backcountry.
Unashamed to be a "cross-country type" and love skiing down-hill.
Unashamed to be a "cross-country type" and love skiing down-hill.
- lilcliffy
- Posts: 4157
- Joined: Thu Jan 01, 2015 6:20 pm
- Location: Stanley, New Brunswick, Canada
- Ski style: backcountry Nordic ski touring
- Favorite Skis: Asnes Ingstad, Combat Nato, Amundsen, Rabb 68; Altai Kom
- Favorite boots: Alpina Alaska BC; Lundhags Expedition; Alfa Skaget XP; Scarpa T4
- Occupation: Forestry Professional
Instructor at Maritime College of Forest Technology
Husband, father, farmer and logger
Re: Altai Kom skis
Hey Mike- the posts to the Kom thread are also being posted here.
Cross-country AND down-hill skiing in the backcountry.
Unashamed to be a "cross-country type" and love skiing down-hill.
Unashamed to be a "cross-country type" and love skiing down-hill.
Re: Altai Kom skis
??lilcliffy wrote:Hey Mike- the posts to the Kom thread are also being posted here.
I moved the posts off the Hok review thread to this one. Once we get a Kom user review we can have comments there. I just didn't want the Hok to get buried by the Kom.
- lilcliffy
- Posts: 4157
- Joined: Thu Jan 01, 2015 6:20 pm
- Location: Stanley, New Brunswick, Canada
- Ski style: backcountry Nordic ski touring
- Favorite Skis: Asnes Ingstad, Combat Nato, Amundsen, Rabb 68; Altai Kom
- Favorite boots: Alpina Alaska BC; Lundhags Expedition; Alfa Skaget XP; Scarpa T4
- Occupation: Forestry Professional
Instructor at Maritime College of Forest Technology
Husband, father, farmer and logger
Re: Altai Kom skis
No- I get it- makes sense.
But if I post here in the Kom thread- it's ending up in the Hok review as well.
But if I post here in the Kom thread- it's ending up in the Hok review as well.
Cross-country AND down-hill skiing in the backcountry.
Unashamed to be a "cross-country type" and love skiing down-hill.
Unashamed to be a "cross-country type" and love skiing down-hill.