Altai Kom skis

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lilcliffy
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Re: Altai Skis Hok Review

Post by lilcliffy » Fri Jan 29, 2016 10:32 am

I would like to hear what Nils has to say on Kom length....(hint, hint).

However- my perspective is always about context...

As a yo-yo mtn ski- on very steep terrain and/or dense cover- requiring aggressive, short-radius turns- GO SHORT.

As a mountain touring ski- with a desire to cover some distance as well as downhill performance- then GO LONG.

But- obviously even 175cm is not long- in a traditional K&G sense...

Maybe that should lead to the development of the next two Altai skis (hint, hint):
1) long-distance mtn touring ski (XCD)
2) long distance BC-XC ski (less downhill, more XC performance)
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Re: Altai Skis Hok Review

Post by kumachan » Fri Jan 29, 2016 3:01 pm

Woodserson wrote:How does one choose between the different lengths? This for me would have to be a try-before-I-buy ski, though I don't deny I'm very interested. I wonder how many lengths ORS will mount up. Almost worth a drive, if we get snow.
If you have time, Altai is doing a ski demo and Instruction in WA at the Sitzmark Ski Area Feb. 6. Check their website! Maybe Nils &/or Francois would consider doing one of those on the east coast of the continent, please?!
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MikeK

Re: Altai Skis Hok Review

Post by MikeK » Fri Jan 29, 2016 3:02 pm

Personally I would go by weight. It's a deep snow ski. I wouldn't think there'd be significant touring advantage to using a longer ski, but a significant disadvantage is it doesn't float your weight.

Just a SWAG:

Less than 130-140 lbs, go for the short version.

140-180 lbs, go for the original.

180+ lbs, go long.

I'm roughly using the Vector tables as a guide (pun not intended).



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Re: Altai Kom skis

Post by MikeK » Fri Jan 29, 2016 3:13 pm

PS moved KOM discussion from Hok review. Don't want to drift a review too much with a different product...



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Re: Altai Kom skis

Post by MikeK » Fri Jan 29, 2016 3:22 pm

PPS Goddamn it you guys.

I had it in my mind I wasn't going to want a ski like this... but the more TTalk it gets, the more curious I am...



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Re: Altai Kom skis

Post by Woodserson » Fri Jan 29, 2016 4:10 pm

YESSSSSS exactly. Me too! It sounds looks and feels legit, it would be a great ski for New England and NY, methinks.



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Re: Altai Skis Hok Review

Post by lilcliffy » Fri Jan 29, 2016 8:16 pm

MikeK wrote: It's a deep snow ski. I wouldn't think there'd be significant touring advantage to using a longer ski
Disagree on this one- in my experience length = glide- always. The 175cm Kom should greatly offer better K&G performance than the 150cm. It's a single-cambered powder ski- even very light skiers should have no problem controlling the camber underfoot, in a downhill turn.

The shorter length is going to primarily effect turning radius and maneuverability.

But- if you want to cover some distance with it- the 175cm Kom should be more efficient in a XC context.
Cross-country AND down-hill skiing in the backcountry.
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Re: Altai Kom skis

Post by lilcliffy » Fri Jan 29, 2016 9:12 pm

Hey Mike- the posts to the Kom thread are also being posted here.
Cross-country AND down-hill skiing in the backcountry.
Unashamed to be a "cross-country type" and love skiing down-hill.



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Re: Altai Kom skis

Post by MikeK » Fri Jan 29, 2016 9:27 pm

lilcliffy wrote:Hey Mike- the posts to the Kom thread are also being posted here.
??

I moved the posts off the Hok review thread to this one. Once we get a Kom user review we can have comments there. I just didn't want the Hok to get buried by the Kom.



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Re: Altai Kom skis

Post by lilcliffy » Fri Jan 29, 2016 9:54 pm

No- I get it- makes sense.

But if I post here in the Kom thread- it's ending up in the Hok review as well.
Cross-country AND down-hill skiing in the backcountry.
Unashamed to be a "cross-country type" and love skiing down-hill.



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