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Powder baskets.

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:29 pm
by mikesee
Or, more appropriately, 'breakable crust' baskets.

I need something bigger than what comes stock on most poles these days.

I've bought aftermarket 'powder' baskets in the past, and they're marginally bigger.

Is there anything truly bigger out there, that'll keep my poles from punching through the way they do now?

Re: Powder baskets.

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:34 pm
by bgregoire
This:
https://www.swixsport.ca/products/swrdt ... wYQAvD_BwE

But I steal mine from 2$ vintage bamboo poles nowadays! :shock:

Re: Powder baskets.

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 8:40 am
by Montana St Alum
What poles are you using?
Some larger baskets are proprietary.

These work well on my poles:
https://www.rei.com/product/753988/rei- ... skets-pair

Re: Powder baskets.

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:16 am
by bgregoire
Montana St Alum wrote:
Thu Feb 18, 2021 8:40 am
What poles are you using?
Some larger baskets are proprietary.

I mostly use the BD Traverse.

Everything can me modified, including proprietary baskets.

Re: Powder baskets.

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:33 am
by bauerb
back in the 70's or 80's, I seem to recall a powder basket thingy that could be added to a pole that already had a basket, some sort of temporary thing, easy on/off.

Re: Powder baskets.

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:35 am
by Montana St Alum
mikesee wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:29 pm
Or, more appropriately, 'breakable crust' baskets.

I need something bigger than what comes stock on most poles these days.

I've bought aftermarket 'powder' baskets in the past, and they're marginally bigger.

Is there anything truly bigger out there, that'll keep my poles from punching through the way they do now?
Let me rephrase that...
What poles do YOU use?

My BD's thread on. My REI's lock on with a quarter turn. I'm sure I could jury rig one to work on the other, but let's start with an optimum solution.

Re: Powder baskets.

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:57 am
by oldschool
I screwed up and shredded one of the baskets on my poles - I have Karhu Mirage poles that have a small cup that points rearward on the tips. I think you need to replace the entire tip. Has anyone used the Swix replacements that Aker's sells? I am not sure if they are going to be big enough. I have thought of putting on the REI baskets but I think I also need a tip to go with it. I have a pair of Mountainsmith trekking poles and have tried using snowflakes on those downhill skiing - those shattered into pieces as did the original little cups. For touring with the regular cups they are ok but I don't like the shock absorbtion which occurs even if you "lock" them.

Anyone know a good place to get modest sized replacement baskets with tips?

Re: Powder baskets.

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:03 am
by bauerb
my uphill poles are some 3 piece black diamond adjustable poles with a good size basket. my downhill poles are some alloy Swix "World Cup pro" - I bought them 20 years ago because they were the strongest poles I could find. funny story about the Swix - the other day I was skiing down an ungroomed trail of mostly variable packed powder. it seemed firm enough until I lost my balance and with a strong pole plant buried the pole up to the hand grip. the tiny little basket sunk about 40". in hindsight, I am lucky that I didn't get hurt. I've been meaning to swap the little baskets for bigger ones...

Re: Powder baskets.

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:13 am
by mikesee
Montana St Alum wrote:
Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:35 am
Let me rephrase that...
What poles do YOU use?

My BD's thread on. My REI's lock on with a quarter turn. I'm sure I could jury rig one to work on the other, but let's start with an optimum solution.

I have a few different sets.

20+ year old alu beaters for knocking around after work.

Extendable Dynafit's for longer tours.

Fixed XC length fiberglass for K+G to get to turns.

On the first two I'm using something just like the REI's you linked to. They just aren't nearly big enough. They punch through with even modest pressure, and then require a hard tug to get back out. Sinister crusts this winter.

The Swix ones that were linked to are what I had in mind. The price is a bit steep, but probably worth it.

Anything else along those lines?

Re: Powder baskets.

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:32 am
by Montana St Alum
mikesee wrote:
Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:13 am
Montana St Alum wrote:
Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:35 am
Let me rephrase that...
What poles do YOU use?

My BD's thread on. My REI's lock on with a quarter turn. I'm sure I could jury rig one to work on the other, but let's start with an optimum solution.

I have a few different sets.

20+ year old alu beaters for knocking around after work.

Extendable Dynafit's for longer tours.

Fixed XC length fiberglass for K+G to get to turns.

On the first two I'm using something just like the REI's you linked to. They just aren't nearly big enough. They punch through with even modest pressure, and then require a hard tug to get back out. Sinister crusts this winter.

The Swix ones that were linked to are what I had in mind. The price is a bit steep, but probably worth it.

Anything else along those lines?
The Swix may be your best bet for your application. The REI's probably have more surface area, even though they're 4" (about 100mm) versus 120mm, but for breakable crust, I'd go with diameter over area.