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What alpine skis are people using for telemark?
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:34 am
by Logancastle
Hi - I've been telemarking since 1991. I've always used telemark skis. My current pair of 185cm Hagans with black diamond cable bindings are 10 years old. It's time for an upgrade. I can't find any telemark skis in Ontario (where I live) so I'm considering buying some alpine skis. I'm 6 foot, 200 lbs. I ski mainly groomed trials some powder. I want to move from 195cm to a pair of 175cm. Also - should I use shims? Whats the benefit? Should I also consider the new bindings with built in breaks?
Thanks in advance for your input.
Don
Re: What alpine skis are people using for telemark?
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 2:06 pm
by Rodbelan
Any alpine ski will do...
Re: What alpine skis are people using for telemark?
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 2:33 pm
by telemarkmark
SccottyBob Headrush.... oh that's a Tele Ski (the only ones?)
Re: What alpine skis are people using for telemark?
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:18 pm
by iBjorn
Some ultralight touring and racing skis will be difficult to mount a telemark binding safely on, but apart from that any alpine ski will work.
And I do agree that it might be a good idea to get a new binding also, after 10 years things start to break, and spares for those bindings I think are scarce today.
Re: What alpine skis are people using for telemark?
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:46 am
by Rodbelan
What kind of binding or which BD binding do you have? 01 (4 hole pattern from 2006), 02 or 03? There is plenty of spares for those, specially 01 & 02
Re: What alpine skis are people using for telemark?
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:13 am
by Logancastle
Thanks for the responses.
I've attached a pic of my skis with the bindings - I plan to leave these on the skis and buy new bindings.
Do most tele skiers use the shims under their bindings? I've seen the new bindings with breaks - are these popular or should I stick with the wire bindings like what I already ski with?
I ski mainly groomed trails out east so would I likely want something with a narrower waist and more of a sidecut?
Thanks
Don
Re: What alpine skis are people using for telemark?
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:38 am
by Woodserson
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2006
Some of the bindings with brakes are NTN, a different type of binding, you'd need new NTN boots too.
Lots of 75mm bindings available online, check ebay. G3 Targas, BD 02, etc etc.
Any mid 80 waisted ski will suit you well.
Re: What alpine skis are people using for telemark?
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:41 am
by lowangle al
Woodserson wrote:viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2006
Some of the bindings with brakes are NTN, a different type of binding, you'd need new NTN boots too.
Lots of 75mm bindings available online, check ebay. G3 Targas, BD 02, etc etc.
Any mid 80 waisted ski will suit you well.
Woods beat me to it, I have an old Voile releasable binding with brakes but I doubt that's what you mean.
Re: What alpine skis are people using for telemark?
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:40 pm
by Rodbelan
These aren't BD bindings, but G3 Targa... They are still making them (at least they still have sone stock to sell). Looking to tour? Might be better to get a tourable version... Not sure where you are skiing...
PS: I just read that you ski groomed terrain... lots of choice...
Re: What alpine skis are people using for telemark?
Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 10:52 am
by Coolwhip
Logancastle wrote:Do most tele skiers use the shims under their bindings? I've seen the new bindings with breaks - are these popular or should I stick with the wire bindings like what I already ski with?
Shims (wedge-shaped risers) were intended to take some slack out of the bindings and compensate for a problem some people experienced due to the curve of their boot soles. Most newer designs move the pivot point of the binding back to provide more leverage for pressuring the front of the ski. Shims were available for Targas, but I don't think you need to add a shim if you haven't had any problems in the past.
Logancastle wrote:I've seen the new bindings with breaks - are these popular or should I stick with the wire bindings like what I already ski with?
Brakes are nice to have - particularly if it is a design that doesn't also require leashes. Nobody really likes leashes, right?
I haven't bought any new skis of the type you're looking for recently, so I can't make any specific recommendation. You might check out some stores that specialize in telemark equipment and see what they're promoting as a piste-biased ski - basically, skis that are available flat and have a bit slimmer profile. For instance,
the Telemark Shop likes the Volkl Kanjo and
Telemarkdown carries the Atomic Vantage and Rossi Experience 88. At 6', 200lbs, I don't see why you would go shorter than 180 for this type of ski.