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My T-4s just arrived and I'm hopeing to get out for a test run before the temps go up tmro. Backcountry.com had them for 30% off, lots of sizes too.

lowangle al wrote:My T-4s just arrived and I'm hopeing to get out for a test run before the temps go up tmro. Backcountry.com had them for 30% off, lots of sizes too.

Old ones or current year?

They should be the new year, they have heat moldable liners. They feel a lot tighter than the ones I tried on a couple months ago at the store. Is it possible they are last years and the changed the last? Or maybe my feet are swollen today.

If you tried the older ones and received the new ones, then the boot is going to be tighter... till you thermoform them! Look at pictures on the web; you will see the difference in the liner... If you happen to have the older one, do not thermoform em! Everything will fall apart... Even if you have the older one, do not worry too much... the liner gets packed after a couple of runs...

I think they are the new ones, I put some heat to them and 10 minutes later they felt good. They are a half size bigger than my T2s and I'm happy with a more comfort fit.

They skied fantastic, combining the freedom of movement from the low cuff like a leather boot and the rigid connection of the plastic upper to the sole, like a plastic boot. I was on Vector BCs but I planned on taking out my Insanes (112mm waist) but it warmed up too much for my wax. I don't think the Insanes would have been too much ski for the boots, in that snow anyway, maybe I'll find out tomorow.

They were very light, only 4 oz. heavier than my leather boots per the pair. They are a perfect boot for a ski like the Vector. I don't think I'll find their limitation until conditions gets hard again.

I bought some new T4s this year and was extremely impressed on the fit and comfort I got wearing these boots. However I have a hard time skiing in them. My parallels are good with these but the Teles not so much. I have pretty much always skied leather and have only used plastic a few times many years ago and some this season. I'm sure it's something I just need to get use to.

GLB,
If you ski "knee to ski" in your leathers, try skiing a taller stance with your plastic boots.

1EyedJack wrote:GLB,
If you ski "knee to ski" in your leathers, try skiing a taller stance with your plastic boots.

Thanks, I do have a longer stance when I ski and have been advised to try shorter/taller stance with hard boots but having difficulty finding my balance. It's rocky for me to stride into the stance I like with them, the extra resistance is throwing me off. Next time I go out with them I'm going to take the cables off to see if that helps for now. I just need to spend some time with it
Thanks again for the advice!

GLB try keeping your heel low to keep from being spread out, also you don't need too much fore/aft distance for stability in most situations. I think a boot length is plenty and what you should shoot for. Also try opening your turn up to at least hip width apart.

I had the T4s out with my Voile Insanes this morning and they are plenty of boot for a big ski in powder, unless you want to jump big drops or ski very fast.

^^^Thanks for that. It's a balance thing with me and the taller stance but with more time I'm sure it will be fine.