A Lonely Bear in Eastern Canada...

[MikeK]

First time skiing with the 6 month pregnant wife this year...

I forgot to ask... did she find a new, creative way to be mad at you?

[Johnny]

Ahahahahah! She actually did. At some point, there was a fence to cross. We had to remove our skis. She didn't cry, but she got really mad. She argued for five minutes. Why can't we just go back? That was fun, why ruin everything now? Why is it always this way? It's always the same with you Johnny, always farther, always more!

She later thanked me for being insistent. She really liked what was on the other side of that stupid fence... I knew she would...

That language family tree is very interesting. Almost more interesting than skiing...

[MikeK]

Oh man, that's hilarious. My wife is the same way!

I can only imagine if they'd ski together:

Wife 1: Let's go for a ski, shall we?
Wife 2: Sounds like a grand idea!
Wife 1: So where shall we go?
Wife 2: Not anyplace too scary!!
Wife 1: Certainly not! But we must have some beautiful scenery.
Wife 2: Of course. How 'bout we head down that meadow?
Wife 1: Oh but there is a fence to cross and that will be terribly difficult...
Wife 2: Yes, true... but there is fantastic scenery across that fence...
Wife 1: But we'll have to take our skis off and that will be a bother.
Wife 2: So then, how about we head down by the creek?
Wife 1: Oh that would be grand! It's so pretty down there.
Wife 2: But what shall happen if we need to cross the creek?
Wife 1: Or worse yet, we might fall in. Maybe that is not a good idea.
Wife 2: I agree. Let's think of some place else.
Wife 1: I know. We'll head into the forest.
Wife 2: But there are bears in the forest!
Wife 1: No, no... they are hibernating this time of year.
Wife 2: Ah yes, you are correct. But what about the hills and trees?
Wife 1: Oh dear! What if we get going too fast and hit a tree? That would be dreadful!
(silence)
Wife 1: Maybe we should just stay in and drink tea with honey.
Wife 2: Oh yes! That sounds much better. It's much too cold out to ski anyway.

And that is how it would go every time!

[Teleman]

Wow, hope the wives don't see that cause if they do, your dead meat! Saw a couple of Telesven's porkers out and about....Do that to often and they will be sacrificed to the dinner table.....Warning Boy's.....Be snickering all the way to the dinner table tonight...Wife will ask...You guys will make me look good in comparison!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TM

[Johnny]

Ahahahahahahah! I don't mind the hot tea and honey... But they have to deserve it...! : )
Mike, you should have this one made into a comic strip...! Yeah, we should start the official TelemarkTalk comic strips...!

Teleman, I think they see everything. Not that they read this forum but they are aware of our secret strategies to bring them skiing with us. I think it's just easier for them to "let go" one or two times a year so everyone's happy. (Especially when they know you have other female ski buddies... : )

I like their drama... I find it quite entertaining actually... Well, sometimes...

[MikeK]

I don't think it matters Tman... they'll find a way to be mad even if we don't have our fun with them.

I used to make comics back in the day... but it's a lot of work. I used to hang them up around college anonymously - they were usually pretty controversial or off the wall. I used to tell my friends that they were mine but no one seemed to believe me... oh well... it was fun.

My wife loves to ski. She even went on her own once... she said it was great. There was no one yelling at her and telling her what to do

And yeah I've been hanging with a friend of mine from HS who happens to be female and says she's into skiing (we'll see - she seems to favor drinking over everything ). She and the wife are friends now too. I was whining about skiing the other day and she told me I should take "the friend"... I gave the wife the and said "She is the last person I'd go skiing with, without you "... you know... she get's a little jealous is all

[Raventele]

But as far as speak goes, all Indo-european..

Actually it's not. Uralic is considered it's own branch (or tree rather).

I like this graphic because it's not only a cool piece of art, but it's also educational:

Not so fast.. and Finnish is just one member of the Uralic languages..

"Indo-Uralic[edit]
Main article: Indo-Uralic languages
The Indo-Uralic (or Uralo-Indo-European) hypothesis suggests that Uralic and Indo-European are related at a fairly close level or, in its stronger form, that they are more closely related than either is to any other language family. It is viewed as certain by a few linguists (see main article) and as possible by a larger number."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uralic_languages

[MikeK]

Not so fast.. and Finnish is just one member of the Uralic languages..

"Indo-Uralic[edit]
Main article: Indo-Uralic languages
The Indo-Uralic (or Uralo-Indo-European) hypothesis suggests that Uralic and Indo-European are related at a fairly close level or, in its stronger form, that they are more closely related than either is to any other language family. It is viewed as certain by a few linguists (see main article) and as possible by a larger number."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uralic_languages

Yes - I was pointing out that Finnish and Hungarian (Magyar) are more closely related (both Uralic). I really only knew that from my tool maker friend telling me. But I did remember the cool tree graphic, and how they split farther down.

I'm not really a linguist (not even close) but what I gather is there are similarities in Uralic and Indo-European but they diverged long ago and Indo-Euro developed into a cluster of other languages that followed a different path of evolution. Why that happened is more of a curiosity to me. The nations where Uralic languages hang on are not very isolated. The history of Europe, and particularly the regions of Germany, Austria and Hungary would have you scratching your head on why Magyar still exists. We also know the Scandinavians weren't exactly known for their tolerance either.

[Raventele]

Various groups have incurred from Asia at very as times and areas of Europe..Of course they were absorbed to varying degrees..It seems reasonable to think that Finiish and other languages have evolved from both Indo-eurpoean roots and some Asiatic sources..

[Johnny]

Ski day #21 today, second time doing it XC style...
This silence when the woods are covered with new snow... It's so peaceful...