Meidjo Release, Maybe, Maybe NOT

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Re: Meidjo Release, Maybe, Maybe NOT

Post by lowangle al » Wed Apr 19, 2023 7:30 am

The ironic thing Stephen is that the "releaseability " of the binding may have been a reason you chose it, and I can't argue with that. I can't say if 75mm would have been safer, but if your heart is in XCD I think you should look at the T4 for the future. T4 + wide stable ski + low angle + slower speed + soft snow = pretty safe, IME.

Do you have a hard cast on it and if so when does it come off?

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Re: Meidjo Release, Maybe, Maybe NOT

Post by fisheater » Wed Apr 19, 2023 8:42 am

lowangle al wrote:
Wed Apr 19, 2023 7:30 am
The ironic thing Stephen is that the "releaseability " of the binding may have been a reason you chose it, and I can't argue with that. I can't say if 75mm would have been safer, but if your heart is in XCD I think you should look at the T4 for the future. T4 + wide stable ski + low angle + slower speed + soft snow = pretty safe, IME.

Do you have a hard cast on it and if so when does it come off?
I agree Allen, with the caveat that my skiing has deteriorated a bit by only skiing my backcountry terrain. I think I rode chairs maybe 1/2 dozen times at the end of my season, and while my skiing wasn’t where I wanted it to be, the improvement was dramatic. I am looking for a more resort oriented kit for next season, that would include a more active binding. Since the binding would be more active, I am also thinking possible release would be beneficial. I am leaning towards the new Voile TTS system.
My motivation is twofold, I like to ski fast. I also want to be back on my A game as physically my body is going the other way, I want the skills sharp to compensate for an older body.



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Re: Meidjo Release, Maybe, Maybe NOT

Post by Manney » Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:25 am

lowangle al wrote:
Wed Apr 19, 2023 7:30 am
T4 + wide stable ski + low angle + slower speed + soft snow = pretty safe, IME.
Stephen was skiing with a wide ski.
Stephen wrote:
Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:07 pm
Armada Tracer 118mm 195cm
He was skiing on loose, unconsolidated snow.
Stephen wrote:
Sun Apr 16, 2023 7:33 pm
A bit of loose snow on an unconsolidated base.
He was skiing at low speed.
Stephen wrote:
Sun Apr 16, 2023 7:33 pm
low speed (<10 mph?)
So what you’re really saying is use a specific boot, binding, Maybe could explain reasons for that. “Pretty safe”? Does that mean safer than TTS. Why.
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Re: Meidjo Release, Maybe, Maybe NOT

Post by Manney » Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:48 am

Stephen… Still early in your recovery. One step at a time. Great physio is hard to find, book. Start looking, booking consults asap. Shop around. Needs access to good equipment. Leg press, leg bench, treadmills… different types. Costs money… yep. Worth every penny, esp early on.
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Re: Meidjo Release, Maybe, Maybe NOT

Post by connyro » Wed Apr 19, 2023 10:02 am

lowangle al wrote:
Wed Apr 19, 2023 7:30 am
The ironic thing Stephen is that the "releaseability " of the binding may have been a reason you chose it, and I can't argue with that. I can't say if 75mm would have been safer, but if your heart is in XCD I think you should look at the T4 for the future. T4 + wide stable ski + low angle + slower speed + soft snow = pretty safe, IME.

Do you have a hard cast on it and if so when does it come off?
I agree. XCD on wide xcd skis and light plastic boots on lower angle slopes is lower risk for serious injury than heavy tele on groomers IMO. Speed is usually much lower and because of ungroomed snow and multiple obstacles, your attention is focused on the snow and hazards much
more than when on groomers where
sometimes we let our guard down and ski in autopilot. Not to mention the false sense of security that releasible bindings and helmets provide.



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Re: Meidjo Release, Maybe, Maybe NOT

Post by lowangle al » Wed Apr 19, 2023 10:05 am

Manney wrote:
Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:25 am


So what you’re really saying is use a specific boot, binding, Maybe could explain reasons for that. “Pretty safe”? Does that mean safer than TTS. Why.


A low boot like the T4 and a 75mm binding doesn't hold your leg as rigidly as it does in an ntn set up. There is more wiggle room so it's less likely that an accident like what Stephen experienced will happen.



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Re: Meidjo Release, Maybe, Maybe NOT

Post by Montana St Alum » Wed Apr 19, 2023 10:11 am

OW! Okay, that's pretty scary. About all I can say is "best of wishes" as I don't think any advice I could give would be relevant. The fact that you're considering alpine and XCD as a combo may be the way to go, though.



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Re: Meidjo Release, Maybe, Maybe NOT

Post by Manney » Wed Apr 19, 2023 10:35 am

lowangle al wrote:
Wed Apr 19, 2023 10:05 am
Manney wrote:
Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:25 am


So what you’re really saying is use a specific boot, binding, Maybe could explain reasons for that. “Pretty safe”? Does that mean safer than TTS. Why.
A low boot like the T4 and a 75mm binding doesn't hold your leg as rigidly as it does in an ntn set up. There is more wiggle room so it's less likely that an accident like what Stephen experienced will happen.
You’d be right if the issue was a boot top fracture. Not that tho. If the issue is ankle, binding immobility, flexibility… XPlore or NNNBC with a soft boot would be even safer. I’d laugh… except this is where tele came from. Still too early for this kind of discussion.

Not seeing this as an X vs Y issue yet. More bits of different things adding up to an accident. Need to understand each bit to figure it out. Skier responsibility. Stephen was there. Important to focus on his words, ask Qs… not skip steps to reach a conclusion on cause, prevention. If that’s the goal. Not sure it is…
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Re: Meidjo Release, Maybe, Maybe NOT

Post by lowangle al » Wed Apr 19, 2023 10:46 am

Manney, I think you should try telemark skiing, I think you'd like it.



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Re: Meidjo Release, Maybe, Maybe NOT

Post by Manney » Wed Apr 19, 2023 10:53 am

Paint yourself into a silly corner… than attack the person pointing it out. Nice. Waiting for the inevitable follow up on your awesomeness.

Joined EYT last night. LOL
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