Soft shell jackets for skiing

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mca80
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Re: Soft shell jackets for skiing

Post by mca80 » Fri Jan 06, 2023 4:15 pm

@bauerb hit the nail on the head.

Another thing about all these high tech clothing items from Patagonia et al. The plastics start to break down in a few years, so no matter how clean you keep it with tech wash and the like, your super expensive gear will cease functioning as intended in a short period. No thanks. I'll stick with wool and canvas and leather.

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Re: Soft shell jackets for skiing

Post by エイダン.シダル » Fri Jan 06, 2023 5:09 pm

bauerb wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 4:00 pm
so the 3rd post directed the conversion to wool, and 4 pages later there is still no consensus. I see jackets being sold for $800!!!!!!! that claim to be breathable. for $800 it damn well better pitch in and help me breath.

these days my strategy is generate heat going up...but don't wear a layer that will cause you to get soaked in sweat...but you must be bold and start cold, and then never stop moving, then throw on any old "wind jacket" for the ride back down. hell, a garbage back stolen from the mens room at the summit lodge would work fine to descend. but don't take my advice, I only ski up/down, not across( unless I am cross country skiing and that is completely different)
Wool... As inner, or mid-layer, I certainly have: merino long underwear, and sweaters. As a shell I'd love it, but it'd need to be a tight weave to keep out snow, and mild precipitation, as well as wind... but not be ruinously expensive. I should try my Pendleton shirt in milder temps. I bought it for summer canoeing on the Canadian Shield, as it's much more campfire-resistant than synthetics.

Reminds me Japan's hikers were still wearing wool plus-fours in the 90s. I thought they were mad, but now I wonder. Funny, I had my best boots back then: full grain leather, few seams, no Gore Tex. I'm not a retrogrouch, but sometimes the new tech isn't better.

A wool twill anorak? Anyone have beta on military surplus?



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Re: Soft shell jackets for skiing

Post by corlay » Fri Jan 06, 2023 5:20 pm

tkarhu wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 1:53 pm
Above 0’ C the Mission jacket is too hot.
yeah - above 0c I generally eliminate any "shell" from my layering,
and probably just my 200 weight fleece
https://rab.equipment/us/capacitor-pull-on
and maybe a light, pertec vest over if there is any wind.
https://rab.equipment/us/cirrus-flex-2-0-vest



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Re: Soft shell jackets for skiing

Post by mca80 » Fri Jan 06, 2023 5:23 pm

エイダン.シダル wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 5:09 pm
I should try my Pendleton shirt in milder temps. I bought it for summer canoeing on the Canadian Shield, as it's much more campfire-resistant than synthetics.
Most Pendleton shirts have a very tight weave and therefore better for windproofing and keeping out the elements. I have worn them when skiing and they performed great. I stick with my Columbia wool shirt because it was cheaper and I don't want to ruin my Pendletons with sweating and never washing them, which is how my Coumbia wool shirt is used.

That said, you probably won't read this because of ignoring me so as to buttress your echo chamber because I have the "wrong" politics.



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Re: Soft shell jackets for skiing

Post by エイダン.シダル » Fri Jan 06, 2023 5:30 pm

mca80 wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 5:23 pm
That said, you probably won't read this because of ignoring me so as to buttress your echo chamber because I have the "wrong" politics.
Oh, you're so misunderstood. /s
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Re: Soft shell jackets for skiing

Post by snow-mark » Fri Jan 06, 2023 5:36 pm

Capercaillie wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 3:39 pm
snow-mark wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:42 am
I’d like one that is very light, very packable, VERY breathable, preferably with a hood, and with some ability to keep me dry when it’s snowing.
That sounds like a windbreaker, not a soft-shell. I really like the Patagonia Houdini for skiing. With a long-sleeve shirt, it works well around -10°C.
Thanks. This looks really interesting.



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Re: Soft shell jackets for skiing

Post by snow-mark » Fri Jan 06, 2023 5:38 pm

mca80 wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 3:46 pm
snow-mark wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 2:15 pm
Thanks. it’s cheap but I cannot imagine when I would use this over the very packable gore-Tex shell I already have (which had full length pit zips).
Well, it will definitely breathe better than anything mentioned, keep you dry from falling snow, and block some wind. But if you want an overpriced name-brand high-tech-looking gear to impreds your peers, this definitely won't fit the bill.

For what it's worth, my friend's dad wears heavier gear from Frogg Toggs for long distance BMW motorcycle tours in inclement weather and swears by it.
Yes, that’s my objective. I plan to buy the most stylish, trendy thing I can find.



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Re: Soft shell jackets for skiing

Post by mca80 » Fri Jan 06, 2023 5:42 pm

snow-mark wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 5:38 pm
Yes, that’s my objective. I plan to buy the most stylish, trendy thing I can find.
You wouldn't be alone in that endeavor.



mca80
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Re: Soft shell jackets for skiing

Post by mca80 » Fri Jan 06, 2023 5:47 pm

エイダン.シダル wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 5:30 pm
mca80 wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 5:23 pm
That said, you probably won't read this because of ignoring me so as to buttress your echo chamber because I have the "wrong" politics.
Oh, you're so misunderstood. /s

It's just a shame that we cannot choose who can see or respond to our posts. People on the right have a great deal more self-importance about their opinions than any value to them.
Why one want to control who can see one's posts?

I presume you are implying I am "on the right," which is not...right.

Anyway I totally recommend trying out a Pendleton as an outer layer in moderate temps. Givien that they're generally cut in a tight fit it wouldn't work as an outer layer if you have many other layers for colder temps, unless you got one a size larger. They work very welll.



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Re: Soft shell jackets for skiing

Post by エイダン.シダル » Fri Jan 06, 2023 5:52 pm

OP asked about clothing. Stick to the topic.



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