Asnes Quiver addition advice sought

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Re: Asnes Quiver addition advice sought

Post by Manney » Tue Nov 14, 2023 9:30 am

You’re well positioned for a 190, if your dry weight is 150 lbs. That would put you on the lower edge of the manufacturer’s recommended weight range, giving you 22 lbs of room for clothing and gear while staying within the ski’s range. Plenty of room there.**

As a point of reference, my day ski set up for weather in the low teens Fahrenheit comes in at 12.8 lbs. That includes about a quart of water in my Camelbak. It would likely be a pound or two more as the temperature approaches zero (heavier mitts and mid layer, perhaps a an extra pint or two of water)..

So a similarly attired person who’s weight is 150 would be in a very good place with a 190 cm MR.

That’s day tripping. Not sure if a ski like a MR would be the best for overnight or hut-to-hut stuff. The weather here can turn on a dime and the risk of getting caught out by a big dump of snow is just too great. So a heavy load wouldn’t be in my cards for a ski like this… nothing more than a daypack with a bit of food.

** it’s worth keeping in mind that any XC oriented XCD ski will be more weight sensitive that a BC ski. Slope reduces the sensitivity because high loading assists on the climb by helping the skier get the pocket/skin to bite on a short stride. High loading on the down slope is less of an issue (gravity overcomes traction) and offers the opportunity for better edge hold on a ski with any kind of camber.

The flats is all about skier weight transfer on the kick… and you can’t transfer what you don’t have. It’s also about glide… and that will be adversely affected by having too much pressure/weight on the pocket. So getting things right for the flats is a delicate weight balance. Which explains why most XC/BC skis have a ~20 lb window for each length.
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Re: Asnes Quiver addition advice sought

Post by Lhartley » Tue Nov 14, 2023 10:09 am

And there's even a pair of 190cm mr48 in teleturnaround:)



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Re: Asnes Quiver addition advice sought

Post by Manney » Tue Nov 14, 2023 10:41 am

Perfect… solves three problems. Seller’s, buyer’s, and the accountants… the exchange rate makes it around $300 American. Maybe $30 for shipping or so. Brand new, in plastic no less.

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=6206&sid=ed8e79113d ... 99908ae7b6

Easily $150-200 savings right there.
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Re: Asnes Quiver addition advice sought

Post by Hyalite » Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:16 pm

Gees, thanks Manney.



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Re: Asnes Quiver addition advice sought

Post by Hyalite » Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:31 pm

Can anyone comment regarding the use of a std nnn binding and lighter Rossi/Fischer common softer boot on a ski like the Mtn Race 48? Would I be better off with NNN-BC? Running with the Rottefella 75mm with Alaska’s on the Fischer E88’s, and just assuming the 75 3pin would be overkill. Detriment??.



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Re: Asnes Quiver addition advice sought

Post by wabene » Tue Nov 14, 2023 3:56 pm

Hyalite wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:31 pm
Can anyone comment regarding the use of a std nnn binding and lighter Rossi/Fischer common softer boot on a ski like the Mtn Race 48? Would I be better off with NNN-BC? Running with the Rottefella 75mm with Alaska’s on the Fischer E88’s, and just assuming the 75 3pin would be overkill. Detriment??.
Yes my Madshus Fjelltech M50 skis are very much like the Åsnes MR48 or the MT51 (another option). They are a skin ski with a full-time integrated skin. Because of that I run NNN bindings on the NIS plate that I can move fore and aft to adjust kick. There are no NNNBC bindings that slide otherwise I would for sure put them on this ski. BC boots are just way better IMO. The BC Crispi Nordland Hook weighs close to the same as my Rossi OT 5 NNN boot but is leather, way more supportive and more comfortable, not to mention much better looking. I also like collecting older NN 3 pin boots and modifying them to work with all my Voile 3 pin bindings. .I have some Merrell Westwind boots that are my lightest boots, lighter than the Rossi's, but again leather, more comfortable and stylin. I put a 5 mm rubber shim on the duckbill to fit the Voile's, but if you have Rotte Super Teles, the old boots with the thinner duckbill fit just fine. For example I have Voile Mountaineer bindings on my Åsnes Gammes and can use the light Merrell boot for flat tours or a stouter boot for more aggressive conditions like the Crispi Svartisen. The 75mn setup is very versatile.



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Re: Asnes Quiver addition advice sought

Post by Manney » Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:18 pm

BC boots are warmer. That might matter living in a cold weather climate.

They provide a little more support too. Wider toe bar, so stronger connection with the binding.

No impact on k&g, apart from stiffness differences between boots in the ankle area.

NN boots are starting to fade from the market… along with incandescent light bulbs. They’ll be around for a while longer but might get difficult to find in all brands and sizes.
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Re: Asnes Quiver addition advice sought

Post by corlay » Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:34 pm

wabene wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 3:56 pm
The BC Crispi Nordland Hook...
*great* boot.

super comfortable, good quality materials and craftsmanship, and relatively easy on the wallet.



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Re: Asnes Quiver addition advice sought

Post by Nitram Tocrut » Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:48 pm

Hyalite wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:31 pm
Can anyone comment regarding the use of a std nnn binding and lighter Rossi/Fischer common softer boot on a ski like the Mtn Race 48? Would I be better off with NNN-BC? Running with the Rottefella 75mm with Alaska’s on the Fischer E88’s, and just assuming the 75 3pin would be overkill. Detriment??.
@spopepro skied the MR48 with Alaska BC. He wrote a report that you can find at the very end of this post https://www.telemarktalk.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=5851



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Re: Asnes Quiver addition advice sought

Post by Hyalite » Tue Nov 14, 2023 9:53 pm

Nitram Tocrut wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:48 pm
Hyalite wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:31 pm
Can anyone comment regarding the use of a std nnn binding and lighter Rossi/Fischer common softer boot on a ski like the Mtn Race 48? Would I be better off with NNN-BC? Running with the Rottefella 75mm with Alaska’s on the Fischer E88’s, and just assuming the 75 3pin would be overkill. Detriment??.
@spopepro skied the MR48 with Alaska BC. He wrote a report that you can find at the very end of this post https://www.telemarktalk.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=5851
After reading about the race this guy from Cali entered it would appear that the Alaska 75 is not ideal, but I typically ski for two to three hours at a time. When I look at Varutse the XP Alaska and binding isn’t that much more than NNN-BC. I wonder if that would be a route to consider vs a new Crispi + NNN-BC. I may then migrate another XP binding to my E88’s. Hmmm



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