wind chill factor

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Re: wind chill factor

Post by mikesee » Mon Feb 06, 2023 4:17 pm

bauerb wrote:
Mon Feb 06, 2023 3:51 pm
can someone please explain to the ranchers in Montana that windchill is not real. they spend a great deal of money building wind breaks for the cattle. they also waste a lot of time bringing in the winter newborns so they don't freeze to death...from windchill when they are wet. and after you explain to the ranchers that windchill is not real , can you also explain that to the cattle? thanks in advance. looking forward to your explanations.


What brand of windproofs are the cattle wearing?

I'll wait while you go ask.

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Re: wind chill factor

Post by Nitram Tocrut » Mon Feb 06, 2023 5:15 pm

Have you noticed that randoskier has only started the thread with 2 posts and has not posted anything else since? For me, his original post was like a click bait…. And we have keep feeding the thread ever since. I see that kind of things regularly on Facebook. Someone will post an out of nowhere opinion and people will angrily answer but the original poster don’t get involved in the discussion… Just saying… sometimes it’s not worth feeding the OP if he does not get involved in the discussion… well that is my opinion ;)

And I vote for the wind factor is a very real factor :D

But kind of funny to think that as farmers we like to have wind when there is a danger of frost in the forecast as it helps move the air and reduce the risk of experiencing a killing frost… but I won’t engage in a gardening discussion here… but only in the off topic discussion :mrgreen:
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Re: wind chill factor

Post by TallGrass » Mon Feb 06, 2023 5:16 pm

mikesee wrote:
Mon Feb 06, 2023 4:17 pm
bauerb wrote:
Mon Feb 06, 2023 3:51 pm
they spend a great deal of money building wind breaks for the cattle.
What brand of windproofs are the cattle wearing?
What windproofs? Speaking from experience, leather is not a good insulator. Good at preventing road rash, but cattle are poor motorcyclists, and worse teleskiers.



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Re: wind chill factor

Post by JohnSKepler » Mon Feb 06, 2023 5:24 pm

randoskier wrote:
Sun Feb 05, 2023 3:00 pm
Wind Chill Factor is total bullshit, I have never seen this "stat" or "heat index" outside of the USA. Wind chill is an exaggeration to sell papers or click bait. How cold you "feel" in wind is a total BS stat". Heat Index is just as stupid and deployed for the same reason- to titillate Americans. That said it was fucking cold on Mt Washington yesterday!
Americans have been carefully conditioned to be ignorant but confident, and unaware of their conditioning. It's a dangerous combination that makes them easy to manipulate. Take something like weather. People are around it, immersed in it, so they think they understand it but they are pretty much clueless as to how it actually works and even less informed as to how it is 'predicted.' Most people can't even pronounce "adiabatic" much less tell you what it means and even less of a chance they can tell you how it applies to weather. But they watch a lot of SciFi so they understand SCIENCE.

Next, frighten them with "wind chill" or "heat index" or, better yet, tell them that you can predict the weather in a hundred years (even though they can't get it right three days from now) tell them they are saving dolphins or some such BS, and it becomes impossible to convince them they've swallowed a load of bull. Reminds me of Catholic Cardinals demanding Galileo recant the heresy of saying the Moon was just like the Earth after seeing it through a telescope.
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Re: wind chill factor

Post by mikesee » Mon Feb 06, 2023 6:40 pm

TallGrass wrote:
Mon Feb 06, 2023 5:16 pm
mikesee wrote:
Mon Feb 06, 2023 4:17 pm
bauerb wrote:
Mon Feb 06, 2023 3:51 pm
they spend a great deal of money building wind breaks for the cattle.
What brand of windproofs are the cattle wearing?
What windproofs? Speaking from experience, leather is not a good insulator. Good at preventing road rash, but cattle are poor motorcyclists, and worse teleskiers.

Fairly good chance you missed both the tongue-in-cheekness of my post, as well as the point.



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Re: wind chill factor

Post by bauerb » Mon Feb 06, 2023 7:47 pm

omg, the troll thread just took a new troll-turn. "Americans have been carefully conditioned to be ignorant"...blah, blah. frighten "them" with scary weather. lol. Please do not give the cattle scary weather forecasts!!



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Re: wind chill factor

Post by TallGrass » Mon Feb 06, 2023 8:00 pm

mikesee wrote:
Mon Feb 06, 2023 6:40 pm
Fairly good chance you missed both the tongue-in-cheekness of my post, as well as the point.
So, it was a "bad catch" not a "bad throw"?



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Re: wind chill factor

Post by Stephen » Mon Feb 06, 2023 8:03 pm

Nitram Tocrut wrote:
Mon Feb 06, 2023 5:15 pm
Have you noticed that randoskier has only started the thread with 2 posts and has not posted anything else since? For me, his original post was like a click bait…. And we have keep feeding the thread ever since.
Stop confusing things with rational statements.
Let the madness continue — how many pages can the Thermodynamics Thread generate?
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Re: wind chill factor

Post by mikesee » Mon Feb 06, 2023 8:29 pm

TallGrass wrote:
Mon Feb 06, 2023 8:00 pm
mikesee wrote:
Mon Feb 06, 2023 6:40 pm
Fairly good chance you missed both the tongue-in-cheekness of my post, as well as the point.
So, it was a "bad catch" not a "bad throw"?

Probably about halfsies on each.



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Re: wind chill factor

Post by randoskier » Tue Feb 07, 2023 6:42 am

JB TELE wrote:
Sun Feb 05, 2023 9:02 pm
Windchill is a measure of how fast bare skin will lose heat to the wind. If its 20f and 0f "windchill", bare skin will lose heat as if its 0f, not 20f. Since we aren't walking around naked and clothing blocks wind, it's not an accurate way of determining how cold it is.
Yes most people have the sense to protect themselves from the wind as the Norwegians say: Det finnes ikke dårlig vær, bare dårlig klær! Windchill is mostly used to titillate the American TV audience.
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