no doubt, in the Sierra the snow can go bottomless in just a few days' snow, you'd need 240cm E99's to float. A longer-size Ingstad would be perfect. Especially if you're the only one breaking trail, whether the ski is good for kick & glide is irrelevant.lilcliffy wrote: My experience with this is that it depends- depends on snow conditions as well as terrain...skis like the E-99/Gamme'Nansen are clearly faster on dense snow- but on deeper, fresh snow? I bet the Ingstad is faster on deep fresh snow...
Fischer E-109 vs. Asnes Ingstad
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Re: Fischer E-109 vs. Asnes Ingstad
"All wisdom is to be gained through suffering"
-Will Lange (quoting Inuit chieftan)
-Will Lange (quoting Inuit chieftan)
Re: Fischer E-109 vs. Asnes Ingstad
Pick a ski without steel edges. There are a few models from Asnes and FischerCannatonic wrote:>>>I do ski with a dog, which I imagine a lot of people do. I am concerned about cuts from the steel edge, not just because they could be serious, but because they could create quite an ordeal where I ski.
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Re: Fischer E-109 vs. Asnes Ingstad
FYI. I asked this Norwegian retailer a few days ago if they would ship Asnes products to North America and they said no, which I found surprising. I figured it might be expensive, but that they would at least ship them to you - at a cost.
I also learned that the Asnes dealer in Calgary won't order anything in for you from Asnes, they only do 1 shipment a year - no special orders; and the dealer in Boulder won't ship outside of the US, or even Canadian customers with a US shipping address.
In the fly fishing world, gear is easily shipped all over the world, including some pretty long rods, so I'm surprised that nobody wants to ship Asnes gear from Europe or the US to Canada.
Given this, I feel especially fortunate that the Montreal-based Asnes retailer happened to have had a pair of Ingstad in my size in stock....
If Asnes wants to increase sales to North America and develop a customer base here (maybe they don't), they need to sort something better out. Later tonight, I'll write to Asnes about my experience trying to buy their product here - perhaps to no avail, but I'll try.
Tom
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Re: Fischer E-109 vs. Asnes Ingstad
I'd ask Sportsnett if they would ship to NA. I'm quite sure they would. They are the winter expedition experts:athabascae wrote:FYI. I asked this Norwegian retailer a few days ago if they would ship Asnes products to North America and they said no, which I found surprising. I figured it might be expensive, but that they would at least ship them to you - at a cost.
I also learned that the Asnes dealer in Calgary won't order anything in for you from Asnes, they only do 1 shipment a year - no special orders; and the dealer in Boulder won't ship outside of the US, or even Canadian customers with a US shipping address.
In the fly fishing world, gear is easily shipped all over the world, including some pretty long rods, so I'm surprised that nobody wants to ship Asnes gear from Europe or the US to Canada.
Given this, I feel especially fortunate that the Montreal-based Asnes retailer happened to have had a pair of Ingstad in my size in stock....
If Asnes wants to increase sales to North America and develop a customer base here (maybe they don't), they need to sort something better out. Later tonight, I'll write to Asnes about my experience trying to buy their product here - perhaps to no avail, but I'll try.
Tom
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I doubt Asnes become as easy to find as you wish in NA. Its quite a niche product. Few here are willing to pay such a premium for quality. I wish though!
I live for the Telemark arc....The feeeeeeel.....I ski miles to get to a place where there is guaranteed snow to do the deal....TM
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Re: Fischer E-109 vs. Asnes Ingstad
I'd ask Sportsnett if they would ship to NA. I'm quite sure they would. They are the winter expedition experts:athabascae wrote:FYI. I asked this Norwegian retailer a few days ago if they would ship Asnes products to North America and they said no, which I found surprising. I figured it might be expensive, but that they would at least ship them to you - at a cost.
I also learned that the Asnes dealer in Calgary won't order anything in for you from Asnes, they only do 1 shipment a year - no special orders; and the dealer in Boulder won't ship outside of the US, or even Canadian customers with a US shipping address.
In the fly fishing world, gear is easily shipped all over the world, including some pretty long rods, so I'm surprised that nobody wants to ship Asnes gear from Europe or the US to Canada.
Given this, I feel especially fortunate that the Montreal-based Asnes retailer happened to have had a pair of Ingstad in my size in stock....
If Asnes wants to increase sales to North America and develop a customer base here (maybe they don't), they need to sort something better out. Later tonight, I'll write to Asnes about my experience trying to buy their product here - perhaps to no avail, but I'll try.
Tom
https://www.sportsnett.no/
I doubt Asnes become as easy to find as you wish in NA. Its quite a niche product. Few here are willing to pay such a premium for quality. I wish though!
I live for the Telemark arc....The feeeeeeel.....I ski miles to get to a place where there is guaranteed snow to do the deal....TM
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Re: Fischer E-109 vs. Asnes Ingstad
Thank you very much for the lead. I will try.
While Asnes are expensive, I don't find that they retail for any more than Fischer XCD skis for example. I don't buy skis often (except for my three kids )
Personally, I ended up purchasing the Ingstad for about $60 less than I would have for the equivalent Fischer e109, so I figure it wasn't a particularly premium price for the Ingstad - and that was not on sale because I grabbed the last one I could find in my size in North America.
For me, its the availability that is an issue.
While Asnes are expensive, I don't find that they retail for any more than Fischer XCD skis for example. I don't buy skis often (except for my three kids )
Personally, I ended up purchasing the Ingstad for about $60 less than I would have for the equivalent Fischer e109, so I figure it wasn't a particularly premium price for the Ingstad - and that was not on sale because I grabbed the last one I could find in my size in North America.
For me, its the availability that is an issue.
Re: Fischer E-109 vs. Asnes Ingstad
Fischer retail is ridiculous. I'm not trying to brag, only give out the info but I believe the most I've paid for a pair of Fischer XCD skis is $209 USD. That was with free shipping too.
Granted we don't have the E99 or E109 tour available. So it's skins and scales for us southerners.
I'm a little bit scared about buying a pair of Asnes. I doubt I'll be able to get what I want for much less than retail and selling may be a bit of niche market if I didn't like them.
It would be awesome if there were suppliers who would demo, but I blame the internet for this... what's the incentive to demo products when people are just going to go home and buy them for the lowest price on the net?
We still have a few places that demo here in NY but they are pretty slim with what they carry in terms of BC XC skis. And of course they are far more expensive than ordering skis.
Granted we don't have the E99 or E109 tour available. So it's skins and scales for us southerners.
I'm a little bit scared about buying a pair of Asnes. I doubt I'll be able to get what I want for much less than retail and selling may be a bit of niche market if I didn't like them.
It would be awesome if there were suppliers who would demo, but I blame the internet for this... what's the incentive to demo products when people are just going to go home and buy them for the lowest price on the net?
We still have a few places that demo here in NY but they are pretty slim with what they carry in terms of BC XC skis. And of course they are far more expensive than ordering skis.
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Re: Fischer E-109 vs. Asnes Ingstad
Equals about $400 CDN right now - just teasing.MikeK wrote:$209 USD
Re: Fischer E-109 vs. Asnes Ingstad
Yeah I know... exchange rate is not good... well unless you are getting the skis for under $400 CAD.
They are asking close to $390 USD for a Gamme at Neptune!
They are asking close to $390 USD for a Gamme at Neptune!
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Re: Fischer E-109 vs. Asnes Ingstad
I'd certainly work on your wax Nato's and see if you like the waxing thing before you fork over the moulah for Asnes skis, Mike.
That being said, I'm OK paying a little extra for a real ski that's made with hard use in mind... quality counts in my book. Especially a company like Asnes, which pretty much has this part of skiing dialed and isn't compromising lines and product in a futile quest for the snowshoe crowd.
That being said, I'm OK paying a little extra for a real ski that's made with hard use in mind... quality counts in my book. Especially a company like Asnes, which pretty much has this part of skiing dialed and isn't compromising lines and product in a futile quest for the snowshoe crowd.