Don't believe people saying you can't XC with the Fischer BCX Transnordic!

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Re: Don't believe people saying you can't XC with the Fischer BCX Transnordic!

Post by mikael.oh » Wed Jan 26, 2022 3:34 am

Nitram Tocrut wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:48 pm
mikael.oh wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 3:35 pm
I got really inspired after that day and started looking at long ski routes. Found something called the Troll trail which is a 160km/100 mile trail on mostly groomed tracks, so you could possibly do it in one day. It´s advertised as a 7 day tour where you sleep in mountain huts and such along the way, but I¨d really like to try to do it in one day with the Gammes and Transnordics. Something for late spring so the days are long enough.
Anyway, that´s the confidence I got out of that one ski, and why I felt I needed to call BS on the comments made without skiing the boots.
Speaking of bullshit… 160 Km in a day that means an average of over 6,5 km/h for 24 hours NON stop!!! That is what I call « bullshit » :P No offense but you kind of open the door ;) If you make it that means you are some sort of superhero! Go for it!

I emailed the guy who wrote the article and asked for more info. Got a really nice reply.
They did the 150km variant in 15h 45 min total. Moving time was 13h 19 min. Roughly you could say 10km/h for 15 hours. With a couple months of good training that feels doable. Especially since I can switch between classic and skating on the fly and change up my movement pattern to relieve the muscles. Also means I can make up time by skating the flat parts as that's much faster Time to start training!

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Re: Don't believe people saying you can't XC with the Fischer BCX Transnordic!

Post by Transplantskier » Wed Jan 26, 2022 6:15 am

Doesn't actually sound unreasonable at all to me. Much lighter gear (I'm assuming skate skis) and different terrain, but Anders Aukland skied 700 km in 41 hours back in April. https://fasterskier.com/2021/04/aukland-700k/ That makes 160 km in 24 sound like a walk in the park. Getting a perfect conditions/weather window is definitely key though if you're talking about that trail that goes to Lillehammer.

The fast and light approach and big single-push adventures/FKTs seem to really be booming in a lot of other sporting communities, but it seems like for whatever reason the XCD community hasn't taken to them yet.



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Re: Don't believe people saying you can't XC with the Fischer BCX Transnordic!

Post by mikael.oh » Wed Jan 26, 2022 7:31 am

Yeah, I remember reading about that!

700km is definitely an impressive number but the circumstances are so different that I don't get any extra confidence or inspiration from it.
Skiing round and round on a lake and going looong is cool in its own way but I'm guessing that if I were to look for it, I could probably find something much cooler that these Aukland brothers have done.

There is a certain je ne sais quoi about going long, though. I'm really looking forward to this challenge!

The Troll route is described as having pretty mellow terrain but because it's so long, you still end up climbing about 2000m.
Getting a good weather forecast is definitely key, yes, but that's also one of the benefits of doing the whole thing in one day. You have so many more options for when to do it.



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Re: Don't believe people saying you can't XC with the Fischer BCX Transnordic!

Post by Nitram Tocrut » Wed Jan 26, 2022 2:52 pm

mikael.oh wrote:
Wed Jan 26, 2022 3:34 am
I emailed the guy who wrote the article and asked for more info. Got a really nice reply.
They did the 150km variant in 15h 45 min total. Moving time was 13h 19 min. Roughly you could say 10km/h for 15 hours. With a couple months of good training that feels doable. Especially since I can switch between classic and skating on the fly and change up my movement pattern to relieve the muscles. Also means I can make up time by skating the flat parts as that's much faster Time to start training!
I see! You sure would have to train a lot to achieve that! I could not find the time for that while I still have my farm ;) Actually, I am training for the Canadian Ski Marathon which consist of “only” 2 consecutive days of 60 km. Not sure I can make it as I sprained my left ankle last spring and my right knee this summer… normal season for a farmer 8-) You should have a look at this classical event that has been held for more than 50 years… it could be part of your training.
https://skimarathon.ca/

Go for it!



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Re: Don't believe people saying you can't XC with the Fischer BCX Transnordic!

Post by telerat » Wed Jan 26, 2022 6:50 pm

Transplantskier wrote:
Wed Jan 26, 2022 6:15 am
Getting a perfect conditions/weather window is definitely key though if you're talking about that trail that goes to Lillehammer.
I think this is the first priority, _both_ conditions and weather. Also think safety and bringing a friend would increase the margin. Try some shorter (50 km?) trails first. I assume you get many good tips from the guy writing the article. Good luck in your endeavors.



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