“systemic” tall/heavy discrimination?

[Stephen]

I like @FourthCoast’s comment.
One used to be able to buy 215 and 220 skis.
Granted, they may have been longer, but not had more weight carrying capacity, but the 215cm E99s I sold @FourthCoast were really too long for me (at 190# all up), so I’m happy they are working out for him.
I had bought them because they reminded me of the 220cm woodies I used to ski on.

It would be interesting if @CoreyLayton could find some older E99s in 215cm to try out…

[lowangle al]

I like the way things are now. Fat people on skinny skis shouldn't be going fast, especially on narrow trails. It's a safety thing.

[FourthCoast]

I like the way things are now. Fat people on skinny skis shouldn't be going fast, especially on narrow trails. It's a safety thing.

I still haven't decided if I should feel personally attacked by this or not. Either way I am planning to haul my lard ass around on these 215s and enjoy the winter.

Before I got these skis the longest skis I ever used were 185s with alpine gear. I was a little concerned that 215 would feel huge and have me tripping over my own tips and tails. This was never a problem last year. But I was definitely not making any quick powerful turns with them and there were a few trails that would have been fun on heavier gear that I decided not to try with the 215 E99s.

For the really narrow trails, especially when the snow turns to ice, I will be sticking to my 170ish K2s with the T2 boots. With that gear I can set an edge in ice almost as well I can with an alpine setup.

What is my point? I don't know. I am procrastinating before work on Monday.

[Stephen]

@FourthCoast, just don’t flatten @lowangle al if you meet him on the trail, zooming by on those 215s…

[FourthCoast]

@FourthCoast, just don’t flatten @lowangle al if you meet him on the trail, zooming by on those 215s…

Will do, Stephen.

I think it is fair to say that xcd skis are a niche inside of a niche sport. I suspect the very few companies that make skis like this can only stay profitable by selling to the very middle of the bell curve.

[lowangle al]

Nothing personal Fourth Coast, I would never personally attack a tall/ heavy guy. A short one maybe, but not a tall one. If I see you coming down the trail I'm still gonna pull over into the trees.

I think the long (215-220) lengths were a holdover from the wooden ski days. Wood skis typically had a softer camber then what can be made now and were skied longer.

[greatgt]

Generally I use 205 e99's....When younger used 210-220- e99's....Used those in very deep powder and, boy did they do the deed....Wasn't using them for surfatizing......they are a slicing machine and when steep they give a wicked ride...Downstairs have an old 215 e99 and they were the best ski on the Mountain a decade back.....Beautiful day, sun blue sky, soft corn....Teleking, Telewheels and the photo editor of BC mag.....As we were sitting and having a brew went up a ways and flew down those suckers and said....BEST SKI ON THE MOUNTAIN....everybody laughed....Tried to get everybody to try them....No takers....bummer.....Finally Telewheels who always has the most modern equipment, meaning back then plastic boots short stubby skis, advanced bindings....Puts the skis on his shoulder and heads up and out of sight...Telewheels hadn't been on an e99 for years if not a decade or two.....Nothing...had another brew...Then there was sound and around a corner and a steep shot comes Wheels...Flying with the skis barely touching the wicked snow.....Beautiful, incredible turns....Comes to a stop with the boys jaws wide open and staring in amazement....Wheels brings the 215 e99's over...."BEST SKIS ON THE MOUNTAIN".....says he.......TM