The OutlawX: the most hated Tele binding ever made?

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Re: The OutlawX: the most hated Tele binding ever made?

Post by bauerb » Fri Feb 05, 2021 5:34 pm

well with brakes removed and standing in my living room, step-in is easier, but not super easy. I'll see tomorrow on snow.

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Re: The OutlawX: the most hated Tele binding ever made?

Post by Pealer » Sat Feb 06, 2021 2:32 pm

I had the same problem last year. This was my fix:




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Re: The OutlawX: the most hated Tele binding ever made?

Post by ESM » Sat Feb 06, 2021 4:54 pm

Never ever a problem and have been on both Outlaw and OutlawX since they came out. I do not run brakes. I use Scarpa TX Comps. I have heard that Crispi boots do not always work as well. Def know brakes makes more difficult. The sticky claw seems rare but can happen. Hated? Most loved! They are heavy for touring but just are so easy, dependable and a joy to ski. I tour with them 50 days a year and they have kept me from upgrading to TTN style bindings. At least, until Scarpa comes out w a lighter boot that has fittings.



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Re: The OutlawX: the most hated Tele binding ever made?

Post by bauerb » Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:13 pm

I don't have sticky claw. not sure why its so hard for me. I have determined that its def easier with brakes removed. my boots are Scarpa TX Pro.



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Re: The OutlawX: the most hated Tele binding ever made?

Post by Montana St Alum » Sat Feb 06, 2021 6:10 pm

bauerb wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:13 pm
I don't have sticky claw. not sure why its so hard for me. I have determined that its def easier with brakes removed. my boots are Scarpa TX Pro.
From an earlier post in a separate thread, you mention:
" the boots I have are not worth the investment of being molded. I bought them used a couple of years ago. they are a size too big and had the hole in the bellows when I bought them. they must be 10 years old at least."

Maybe this is the the reason for the problems with your Outlaw X's!
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Re: The OutlawX: the most hated Tele binding ever made?

Post by ESM » Sat Feb 06, 2021 6:34 pm

Maybe you are lucky that you are not getting in well. Tele guru Dostie has stated that TX Pros are not recommended in cage like bindings such as the Outlaw. The toe plastic w the tech inserts are prone to cracking. Scarpa apparently has said something to this effect as well. Maybe you already have such damage on the other hand.



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Re: The OutlawX: the most hated Tele binding ever made?

Post by bauerb » Sat Feb 06, 2021 8:32 pm

I agree. it did occur to me that because the boots are so old, they may be slightly out of spec...next year = new boots



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Re: The OutlawX: the most hated Tele binding ever made?

Post by bauerb » Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:29 pm

just watched this vid. its 10 mins of explaining the OutlawX step-in procedure.



its not that easy for me, and I've noticed sometimes its really hard to get out of the binding. based on what I'm hearing and seeing, I feel like I've got either boots or bindings slightly out of spec. unlike the Freeride, the Outlaw is not forgiving around exact specs



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Re: The OutlawX: the most hated Tele binding ever made?

Post by TeleForce » Mon Feb 15, 2021 8:39 am

I have Scott Voodoo boots and the distance from the toe to the duckbutt is 179mm. The spec is 176.5mm. it's very hard to step in and Outlaw with them. The Scarpa which measures 176mm is easy. Measure your tip of toe to back of duck butt. This could be contributing to your problem. I have heard other people have the same problem.



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Re: The OutlawX: the most hated Tele binding ever made?

Post by EvanTrem » Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:08 pm

I bet you guys have figured this out as well, but I found there is some subtle technique to the step in.

My biggest revelation was planting both of my poles on either side of the ski with the baskets just in front of the binding. This stops the ski from sliding away as you push the toe in firmly. It's not a 100% thing but it helps.



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