Open turns in Barnett's Cross-Country Downhill?
- DropKneeDiehard
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Re: Open turns in Barnett's Cross-Country Downhill?
The Pedal hop turn was practised by Vallecant and Baud both skiers of Extreme steeps.
On extreme steeps your downhill ski is down below on a very extended leg whilst your uphil ski is way up with an almost 90degree thigh making it almost impossible to do normal wind shield wiper hop turns.
In the pedal hop your push of the top ski whilst feeing your downhill ski to scissor it 180 degrees and then following it with the uphill ski which becomes the downhill.
Its a sequential turn a bit like a kickturn, stepturn and scissor turn but used exclusively on extreme steeps.
Called the pedal hop because its intiated with a pedalling motion.
Try it on side hills where there is no consequence if you stuff it up.
Heaps of fun
On extreme steeps your downhill ski is down below on a very extended leg whilst your uphil ski is way up with an almost 90degree thigh making it almost impossible to do normal wind shield wiper hop turns.
In the pedal hop your push of the top ski whilst feeing your downhill ski to scissor it 180 degrees and then following it with the uphill ski which becomes the downhill.
Its a sequential turn a bit like a kickturn, stepturn and scissor turn but used exclusively on extreme steeps.
Called the pedal hop because its intiated with a pedalling motion.
Try it on side hills where there is no consequence if you stuff it up.
Heaps of fun
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Re: Open turns in Barnett's Cross-Country Downhill?
That is very cool. Thank you for posting that article @DropKneeDiehard. How well do pedal hop turns work with a free heel?
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Re: Open turns in Barnett's Cross-Country Downhill?
I did a bit more searching, and it turns out this turn was called the "open Christiania" or sometimes "scissor Christiania" and was all the rage in the 1920s. Here is a description from Arnold Lunn's 1920 book Cross-country Ski-ing:
https://archive.org/details/crosscountr ... 0/mode/2up
Vivian Caulfield's 1922 Skiing Turns also mentions it.
There are many descriptions in 1930s periodicals and books. Some are available on the web:
https://www.gvhs.ca/digital/gatineau-pa ... -03-24.pdf
https://archive.dartmouthalumnimagazine ... -technique
https://archive.org/details/crosscountr ... 0/mode/2up
Vivian Caulfield's 1922 Skiing Turns also mentions it.
There are many descriptions in 1930s periodicals and books. Some are available on the web:
https://www.gvhs.ca/digital/gatineau-pa ... -03-24.pdf
https://archive.dartmouthalumnimagazine ... -technique
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Re: Open turns in Barnett's Cross-Country Downhill?
Thanks very much for these (almost forgotten) informations...Capercaillie wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2024 11:11 amI did a bit more searching, and it turns out this turn was called the "open Christiania" or sometimes "scissor Christiania" and was all the rage in the 1920s. Here is a description from Arnold Lunn's 1920 book Cross-country Ski-ing:
https://archive.org/details/crosscountr ... 0/mode/2up
Vivian Caulfield's 1922 Skiing Turns also mentions it.
There are many descriptions in 1930s periodicals and books. Some are available on the web:
https://www.gvhs.ca/digital/gatineau-pa ... -03-24.pdf
https://archive.dartmouthalumnimagazine ... -technique
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Re: Open turns in Barnett's Cross-Country Downhill?
You’re welcome!Rodbelan wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2024 9:53 amThanks very much for these (almost forgotten) informations...Capercaillie wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2024 11:11 amI did a bit more searching, and it turns out this turn was called the "open Christiania" or sometimes "scissor Christiania" and was all the rage in the 1920s. Here is a description from Arnold Lunn's 1920 book Cross-country Ski-ing:
https://archive.org/details/crosscountr ... 0/mode/2up
Vivian Caulfield's 1922 Skiing Turns also mentions it.
There are many descriptions in 1930s periodicals and books. Some are available on the web:
https://www.gvhs.ca/digital/gatineau-pa ... -03-24.pdf
https://archive.dartmouthalumnimagazine ... -technique