Madshus Panorama M78?

[Bcskier44]

How are people liking the Madshus Panorama M78? I currently have an XCD setup that is great for rolling terrain and wide open hills - Fischer BC 100's, Rottefella NNN BC Magnum Bindings, and Alpina Alaska boots. I also have a dedicated downhill setup - DPS's (with skins), G3 Targas, and three buckle plastic Crispi's. However, I am considering adding a third option to the quiver to fill in the gap. I would like to invest in a waxless ski with a 3-pin binding that I can use the plastic Crispi's and a 75MM Alaska boot (to be purchased) in low-angle woods (notably tighter woods where turns need to be made on demand). Several of the voiles seem perfect, but I can't bring myself to spend that kind of money. The Madshus Panorama M78 appears like a good ski for this. Curious what the general verdict is on their performance in nordic downhill.

P.s. I've considered buying BC 80's to make my NNN BC setup and slapping 3-pin bindings on my current BC 100's. The BC 80 seems like it would turn slightly easier than the beefy 100's on hardpack.

[riel]

The 80mm wide (at the tip), and ~60mm underfoot skis are much easier to turn with leather boots on hardpack.

There are a whole bunch of different skis in this category, including the Fischer Traverse 78 (great grip), the Asnes Nansen (super stable), the Asnes Ingstad (great float in deep snow), the Alpina Discovery 80, and the Madshus Eon / M62 (almost downhill flex).

All of those would be great skis to drive with NNN-BC bindings and Alaska boots.

Those BC100 skis are probably too wide underfoot to be effectively driven with soft boots. Putting stiffer boots on them will allow you to control the skis much better, and use them for different things.

I started out with Fischer S-Bound 112 skis and Fischer BCX675 boots, but nowadays I only use my S-Bound skis with plastic boots, and the soft boots are only used with narrower skis.

[fisheater]

The M-78 is the old Annum. I saw a bunch of them at Whitegrass last winter. Your trees are probably a bit tighter. I have an Alaska 75 that I have skied with both the original Falketind and the new Falketind Xplore. The difference is the new ski was mounted Rottefella Super Telemark with the cable. The reason I went to the Rotte ST was for superior clamping on the thin Alaska duckbill. However now having skied that binding for a season, I am also very impressed with how torsionally rigid the boot/ski interface becomes with the addition of the cable.
I also skied an S-112 for a few years. I could easily over power that air channel core with stiff leather boots. That snowboard screaming for mercy sound that ski made never encouraged maximum velocity on hard pistes. The M-78 is similarly constructed, unless they significantly changed that ski. I believe you could get full performance out of that ski, an Alaska 75, and the Rotte ST with cable. I haven’t skied that combo on hard pistes, and really don’t want to. I have let them run on two layers of wind buff over moguls, and through the beautiful glades of White Grass. The third day, went above freezing with sun. That combo handled the heavier snow just fine.
I think the Falketind Xplore I skied is a superior ski, but it isn’t available waxless

[Bcskier44]

The 80mm wide (at the tip), and ~60mm underfoot skis are much easier to turn with leather boots on hardpack.

There are a whole bunch of different skis in this category, including the Fischer Traverse 78 (great grip), the Asnes Nansen (super stable), the Asnes Ingstad (great float in deep snow), the Alpina Discovery 80, and the Madshus Eon / M62 (almost downhill flex).

All of those would be great skis to drive with NNN-BC bindings and Alaska boots.

Those BC100 skis are probably too wide underfoot to be effectively driven with soft boots. Putting stiffer boots on them will allow you to control the skis much better, and use them for different things.

I started out with Fischer S-Bound 112 skis and Fischer BCX675 boots, but nowadays I only use my S-Bound skis with plastic boots, and the soft boots are only used with narrower skis.

Your response has all but confirmed my suspicion that I should swap out bindings. Perhaps put 3 pins with a cable on the BC100’s and invest in something like the M62 or BC80 for my NNNBC bindings and boots.