Trail breaking ski

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Re: Trail breaking ski

Post by dave52 » Thu Mar 31, 2022 11:56 am

Cannatonic wrote:
Wed Mar 30, 2022 12:37 pm
this is a long thread - did anyone mention Finnmark & Breidablikk from Asnes. They would be modern, super-light weight alternative to USGI. I'm glad to see Breidablikk comes in 210's now, I had to buy them in 200's a few years ago.

Breidablikk would be good alternative to various Voile options for turns, as long as there's no ice you don't need edges and the ski is unbeliavbly light weight.
Would you say the Breidablikk is the pet friendly/non-metal edge version of the Ingstads? Genuinely curious, their specs are similar but not sure what rocker and stiffness is like.

Also funny you mention them, just saw some B stock for a steal: https://varuste.net/en/p117347/%C3%A5sn ... bc-b-grade

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Re: Trail breaking ski

Post by dave52 » Thu Mar 31, 2022 12:14 pm

lowangle al wrote:
Wed Mar 30, 2022 8:18 am
Fwiw everyone that I passed skiing ingstads this winter seemed to really like them.
Al, it seems like you ski a lot of wider planks, what's the terrain you ride like, if you don't mind me asking?

Also anyone else who falls into this camp, not sure if downhill and turns is your main focus, but interested if you find your more xcD skis squirrely when you remove the descent from the equation? A lot of people on here love to optimize setup to a fine degree, this is quite broad but curious how much of a difference there is in experience and how bothersome a less ideal ski can be.



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Re: Trail breaking ski

Post by lilcliffy » Thu Mar 31, 2022 1:10 pm

dave52 wrote:
Thu Mar 31, 2022 11:56 am
Cannatonic wrote:
Wed Mar 30, 2022 12:37 pm
this is a long thread - did anyone mention Finnmark & Breidablikk from Asnes. They would be modern, super-light weight alternative to USGI. I'm glad to see Breidablikk comes in 210's now, I had to buy them in 200's a few years ago.

Breidablikk would be good alternative to various Voile options for turns, as long as there's no ice you don't need edges and the ski is unbeliavbly light weight.
Would you say the Breidablikk is the pet friendly/non-metal edge version of the Ingstads? Genuinely curious, their specs are similar but not sure what rocker and stiffness is like.

Also funny you mention them, just saw some B stock for a steal: https://varuste.net/en/p117347/%C3%A5sn ... bc-b-grade
Breidablikk is essentially a non-steel-edged Combat NATO.
https://www.en.asnes.com/produkt/combat-nato/
https://www.en.asnes.com/produkt/breidablikk-fjellski/

Or rather- the Briedablikk is a non-steel-edged old-generation Ingstad (the Combat NATO is the military version of the old Ingstad). Photo of them here: http://reallyusefultools.blogspot.com/2 ... -skis.html

The Combat version has a few other differences including a binding retention plate- but the geometry is the same as the Breidablikk.

The current Ingstad/Tonje are complete redesign- very different geometry- flex is different as well.

The Briedablikk/Combat NATO do not have any rocker. This ski is a better XC ski in deep and difficult snow than the Ingstad/Tonje. (The Ingstad/Tonje offer better turn-initiation and planing due to the rocker- they also have a much shorter turn radius than the Bried/Combat).
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Re: Trail breaking ski

Post by grizz_bait » Thu Mar 31, 2022 8:42 pm

Does anyone recall if Neptune has sold the Combat NATO in years past?



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Re: Trail breaking ski

Post by dave52 » Fri Apr 01, 2022 9:45 am

lilcliffy wrote:
Thu Mar 31, 2022 1:10 pm
Breidablikk is essentially a non-steel-edged Combat NATO.

Or rather- the Briedablikk is a non-steel-edged old-generation Ingstad (the Combat NATO is the military version of the old Ingstad). Photo of them here: http://reallyusefultools.blogspot.com/2 ... -skis.html
Thanks for info!

You tempted me here but then I saw this, lol:
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Re: Trail breaking ski

Post by lowangle al » Sat Apr 02, 2022 9:21 am

dave52 wrote:
Thu Mar 31, 2022 12:14 pm
lowangle al wrote:
Wed Mar 30, 2022 8:18 am
Fwiw everyone that I passed skiing ingstads this winter seemed to really like them.
Al, it seems like you ski a lot of wider planks, what's the terrain you ride like, if you don't mind me asking?

Also anyone else who falls into this camp, not sure if downhill and turns is your main focus, but interested if you find your more xcD skis squirrely when you remove the descent from the equation? A lot of people on here love to optimize setup to a fine degree, this is quite broad but curious how much of a difference there is in experience and how bothersome a less ideal ski can be.
I ski a wide variety of terrain Dave. Everything from a lap around a frozen lake, logging roads and East coast tree skiing to above treeline steeps in Ak. I like the wider skis for all of it except for steep and hard, where I would want a more narrow ski, but I avoid these conditions.

My focus is turn oriented skiing in soft bc snow but I'm a xc skier at heart and enjoy the K&G aspect as much as anyone. Fat skis don't detract from the pleasure of xc for me. It is more a matter of the boot that affects K&G. I ski T4s and had to make adjustments for K&G compared to lighter xc set up, but it still gives me the same pleasure. My speed is about the same for me on leather boots or the T4s. It takes more energy but I can still get in ten miles in about four hours. I could probably get in twenty miles if I put in a full day and the tour wasn't very turn oriented.



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